This might sound really thick of me but until recently all the dogs we have had came from the RSPCA Rescue so I never knew anything about their backgrounds or anything.  Not so long ago I bought a staffordshire bull terrier who was KC registered and came with a funny name.  Do the breeders pick this name or do Kennel Club give them?

Niki G

The breeder chooses the names for their pups.  They apply for an affix from the kennel club when they first begin breeding.
I have Staffies, what's your pups KC name?

I love trying to work out the background behind some of the kennel names we come across. We have Spark Plugs, and Starside Matt Busby arrives tomorrow :-D!!

When we collected Spice,we were permitted to add any other names to her kennel club name/affix,providing it/they began with the letter M. So officially she is 'Mercedes' and at home with us and all her family she is Spice. :D amongst her litter mates she has Moodyblues,Maximillion,Moondance & Millie. :)
Jacqueline.

Hi Jac

How is Spice? I remember you said you were getting one from Trish, how olds she now (Spice I mean!!)? Are you planning on showing her or doing any other activity?

Char

Sorry to take so long to reply.  Her name is Kenmilltri Jamacar

In that case your dogs breeder allowed the Kennel Club to choose the name. KENMILTRI is the word used by the KC for dogs registered in 2003 KEN= kennel club, MILTRI=2003. It would appear the your breeder did not have an affix or kennel name of their own, so the KC named the puppies.

Dawn R.

So what I was wondering was, if you wanted to breed from your dog does it have to be listed as the parent under it's given name or under the name you have chosen for it? or can you do both? I don't really like the name given to my puppy and kinda want to discard it...lol...but would I have to use it.  My puppy's breed is not even registered with the KC as yet as they are fairly new and rare so this is just an in theory question...Although the society for our breed does keep records for the future when they may become registered.

Yes, registrations must be under the registered name, which has to be different to that of any other dog. Otherwise, can you imagine the chaos? How many litters would "Honey" have registered to her?!

So no, you can't discard her 'proper' name. That's what would have to go on all official documents.

Tell me JG, I buy a bitch called shall we say Hightown Bess and I add my affix and now have a bitch registered as Hightown Bess of Nowhere. Now a few years latter I notice that at shows there is a bitch called Hightown Bess, is this ok or should the KC not have allowed that registration as the first Hightown Bess is still being show even if it is not very often.

There is a rule about resue of names, I think a name can be reused after 10 years if the original named dog has not been entered in the stud book.  Also if the name is made unique by the addition of an affix then there is nothing to stop the original name being used on another dog, as it won't in fact be the same name. 

I noticed that too and thought it strange for the breeder to have forgotten oe chosen to resue the name.

Well it does not matter to me but as I am still showing Elli I quess it may well matter to the owner of Elli number 2. Also a bit supprised that there must have been 26 litters since she was born unless some letters were missed which I do not think there has been.

ok so if a female I buy is given the registered name xxxx abc (xxxx being the name of the breeders kennel and abc being the puppy's name) and then I become a breeder and breed from my dog with the original name xxxx abc and I have a kennel name of my own called xyz and I get to name all the puppies I breed does the dog i have bred from never loose it's original name and become xyz mnop (xyz being my kennel name, mnop being the name I have given the dog) . Hell I have confussed my self completly does that all even make sence?..lol

No, the bitch will always remain as XXXX abc, but you can add your affix onto the end, so she will be registered as XXXX abc at xyz.  All the pups from this bitch you breed can be called xyz ?????? (whatever you pick for them).  this is a bit of a simplistic view, but leaving out the reasons when your affix cant be added, and the fact that you can apply for a change of name (but you cant drop the original affix).
bye
Gwen

the kennel name is the affix,them you have her given name by the breeder.
if you was to breed her and wanted your own affix for the pups you need to register it with the kc club.
but your orignal girl would have your affix (kennel name) at the end of her kc names as a suffix.
so to you it would be:xxx (breeders affix) kc name (your affix xyz) as her suffix.
the pups you breed would have your affix (xyz) then the name you have chose.
but you have to put 6 ideas forward and the kc gives you one from your list this is then your affix.you can pay to have it put on as the suffix for the dogs you own but not bred.
but i think you can only have upto 21 characters for an affix and this includes any spaces.
hope it helps 

Just a point, Marie - a dog's original registered name can only have 24 letters (excluding spaces) including affix, so an affix 21 letters long leaves names very limited ...

what is the size overall? thinking about having an affix but is there a limit to length of name? with or without spaces?
my lad is: 10 for affix/5/6. so 21 in total without 2 spaces.
is there a limit for a suffix on the overall kc name?

When you register a pup its name can be a maximum of 24 letters (excluding spaces), but including affix. When you add your own affix ("xxx") as a suffix you may add "at xxx", "by xxx" "with xxx" as appropriate.

thank you i know what i want but i bet some one already has it! its hard to come up with ideas.

If you have an affix then the name is unique (unless one of the words you want is already another person's affix) and it should be allowed.

my idea is 2 different words put together as 1.

You'd be surprised what has already been 'bagged'. The only thing to do is ask!
:)

yeah true got to get six i really like together got around 4 at the mo,so which ever they say is ok i will be happy with.but it is so difficult to try and think of unusual affix.
the only 1 i have come up with is our names mixed together but not keen.

Hi the Kennel Club only allows an affix to be at least 4 characters and no more than 12 characters long.So ABC would be too short and ZYXWVUTSRQPON would be too long. Gillian

I dont think a 21 letter Affix woudl be such a good idea, as you are onlyy allowed 24 letters for the whole name, including the Affix!  However, the additional Affix, whether it appears as an affix or suffix, does not count in that number.
bye
Gwen

what if i wanted AT ? would the AT bit count? i know you have just said the suffix doesn't matter but it would sound funny on his name without an AT /WITH etc in between his kc and my affix.

You can use, at, with, for, by, av, or as I did recently c*m and then your affix to the dogs already registered name. The original registered name can be (youaffix is a good boy) then when you sold him to some one with an affix called Haven he would become 'Youraffix is a good boy at Haven' or it could be a simple as Maries' Baby and when sold he would become Maries' Baby at Haven

Did the KC seriously let you get away with adding that Jackie? I have altered that word under the p*rn rule :-)

Yes, as in kitchen c*m dining room, sorry if it has other connotations but than is news to me and it appears on the KC form. Will have to look in the dictionary and see what it says but I think it is a Celtic word meaning with or together. As my boy also has a Celtic Gods name it seem fitting.

Have looked it up and it only has the meaning I thought it had, guess you and Mel must move in different circles to me and the Kennel Club ;)

Yeah, me, Admin and almost everyone else ;) I don't advise you to put that word into Google and see what c*mes up :p :p :p

Yep, you're right, Jackie. The dictionary definition is "with; together with", as in this example. There are also a couple of places in the UK with it in their name (though I can't find them at the moment :rolleyes: ) Do they also have to use an asterisk?

What a shame it seems to be another perfectly ordinary word that has been hijacked and debased. :(

Chorlton c*m Hardy??

Well done Mel! :)

Just outside Northampton there's a place called 'Buttock's Booth'. Should they use an asterisk too? I mean, that doesn't even have the distinction of being Latin ...

As far as I am aware, buttock isn't now nor has ever been p*rnographic JG ...unless, of course, you know otherwise?

;)

Did you know that some (AOL I think it was) chat programmes used to  NOT allow you to use certain names? Scunthorpe is one of them :) Not sure if this has now changed...I am talking about several years ago :)

Are bottoms not your thing then, Mel? ;) :D

Never you mind what my thing is madam ! :D :D

:D :D :D really??

Its Latin as in Suma C*m Laude, and various other "tags" and titles.  Unfortunatley, also Anglo Saxon in its other meaning!
bye
Gwen

I suppose it depends which way your mind works, as to whether it's 'dirty' or not ... ;)

If it breaks the p*rn rule it gets asterisked. Nothing to do with how anyones mind works. That is the way it is :-)

Good job they don't do that in the catalogue when he is shown nor in the results, it never crossed my mind that any one could find it offensive and I would guess neither did the KC.

my lad has av in his pedigree what does it stand for?

It is probably Scandinavian then meeaning I beleive at or of.