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Topic Dog Boards / Visitors Questions / American Golden retrievers
- By Guest [gb] Date 14.06.04 10:37 UTC
We have an Ameriacn golden retriever which we aquired whilst living in the States. We are very keen to get a second but do not know whether they are bred over here.

If anyone can help with this matter we would be extremely grateful.

Many thanks.

Sarah Loden.

e-mail: thelodens @bigfoot.com
- By BennyBoo [gb] Date 14.06.04 11:00 UTC
I thought Goldens were the same the world over?  Or am I being ridiculous?  lol
- By Jackie H [gb] Date 14.06.04 11:02 UTC
Have to say I thought a Golden Retriever was a Golden Retriever, a well bred one or a poorly bred one they are still Goldens. Now I wait to be corrected.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 14.06.04 11:32 UTC
What's the difference between an American Golden Retriever and one from any other country?
- By sweep Date 14.06.04 11:38 UTC
I believe that some of the ones bred in America may be darker?

Sweep
- By Jackie H [gb] Date 14.06.04 11:44 UTC
Darker than what Sweep, in the UK they come any colour from deep gold to almost white. Any shade of gold is called for in the standard but what carrot gold is not stated
- By sweep Date 14.06.04 11:51 UTC
A very deep gold, almost red/mahogony.

Sweep
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 14.06.04 12:15 UTC
According to the AKC Standard very dark or very pale shades are undesireable.
- By Havoc [gb] Date 14.06.04 12:20 UTC
Pretty sure that this is technically the same breed. However, along with a number of other breeds American examples can differ markedly from UK examples. With regards to the colour, I believe that US Goldens are more often (but not always) found at the darker end of the breed standard, whereas UK Goldens are very often seen at the lighter end.

I'm sure that the Guest will be able to find the qualities that they are looking for within UK examples of the breed (including the darker colour). I doubt whether there would be any US bloodlines over here, but perhaps a Golden enthusiast can advise?
- By sweep Date 14.06.04 13:27 UTC
As with our KC too I believe. 

Sweep ;)
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 14.06.04 14:06 UTC
Our KC will accept the pale cream, but frowns on dark red/mahogany.
;)
- By sweep Date 14.06.04 16:34 UTC
HHHHhhhmmmmmm!!! 
But at the end of the day there isn't such a breed as an American Golden Retriever, dont you agree?

Colour is really superficial anyway(unless showing), temperament and health would always come first.

Sweep x
- By sweep Date 14.06.04 17:32 UTC
I do realise that that I brought up the subject of colour and not the original poster.

Sorry
Sweep ;)
- By John [gb] Date 14.06.04 18:53 UTC
A Golden Retriever is a Golden Retriever.
Its history is to a large extent shrouded in mystery although one story is that it was the result of a cross between a Tweed Water Spaniel and a Yellow Russian circus dog. Whatever the origins, a lot of the early development work was carried out by Lord Tweedsmiur. One thing is certain, Like the Labrador retriever, the breed as now known is a British breed which was later exported into America and all other parts of the world.

Over the course of time the breeds change and not just in other countries. Lets face it, some breeds are barely recognisable when compared with the same breed 50 years ago! In the same way, the same bred in another country would be subject to change brought about by the preferences of both the breeders and the judges and develop in a slightly different direction. Even in this country, a whole gamut of different dogs can be found in one breed ring and each and every one fulfilling the breeders interpretation of the breed standard.

Goldens are not my breed but Labradors are and as an illustration on this divergence away from the original British Labrador, The UK KC Breed Standard calls for a height for dogs of  22 to 22.5 inches, AKC 22.5 to 24.5. Bitches KC 21,5 to 22, AKC 21.5 to 23.5

Best wishes, John
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