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By Guest
Date 25.05.04 15:35 UTC
i am getting a rottweiller but i dont know where it should sleep?
By Jackie H
Date 25.05.04 15:38 UTC
Where ever is suitable for you and not in a draft. Whilst it is a puppy somewhere with an easy washable floor.
By Mr Murphy
Date 26.05.04 07:57 UTC
This may sound a little harsh but as the owner of so called "dangerous dogs" I would be inclined to say perhaps you are not ready to own such a dog if you dont know where it should sleep. If you have done all your homework on the type of dog you want you will know the answers to such simple questions. Mick
By Jackie H
Date 26.05.04 12:12 UTC
Well Mick as you know, do tell ;)
By Mr Murphy
Date 26.05.04 15:39 UTC
Hello Jackie
You have already given the answer. I was pointing out that if you dont know now, then maybe you shouldnt have a dog. Especially one that requires a little more brains to own without incident. As we both know too many people want a Rotty or a Mastif or a staff or whatever, usually for the wrong reasons and without knowing much about what they are getting. If it had been a nice wee dog needing ahome from the rescue centres I could be less harsh. Its just that I think that dogs such as these and my own prefered breeds should not be your first dog. If the guest was an experienced dog owner that is a question they would not have had to ask
Regards Mick
By Jackie H
Date 26.05.04 17:33 UTC
Sorry Mick, did not understand the post properly.
By SaraN
Date 26.05.04 19:16 UTC
''If it had been a nice wee dog needing ahome from the rescue centres I could be less harsh.''
A dog is a dog Mick. No matter where it comes from they are all the same and need the same amount of basic care. If this person is ''not ready to own such a dog as a rottweiller'' then why should they be allowed to own any other breed of dog? and why is it OK for them to have a rescue? They need just as much care as any pure breed rottweiller does.
By Mr Murphy
Date 26.05.04 19:45 UTC
You seem to have missed my point also Sara. What I am saying is that if someone doesnt know where there new dog should sleep it would suggest to me that they are a complete novice. For that reason I dont think a rotty is a sensible choice. If people made sensible choices then perhaps my prefered breed wouldnt be banned. Its not just the caring for the dog that matters what about control and handling and training of such a large and powerful dog. I dont mean they should only have a rescue dog, that was just an example. Perhaps I should have said a smaller more managable dog.
I dont think anyone should be able to buy certain breeds of dog just because they want one or can afford one.
I live a couple of miles from where a little ten year old girl was killed by two Rottys that the sensible owners allowed to go for a walk with two ten year old girls. These dogs were pets and were petted by loads of people in the pub where they lived. There was and still is no known reason for the attack. These two dogs had plenty basic care, in fact more than enough. What they didnt have was an owner with enough common sense not to let two ten year olds out with the dogs on their own. The girls were allowed to take these two dogs along an unfenced tidal river bank. They might have knocked one of them into the river if they hadnt attacked.
Now this has ruined the life of the mother of the little girl and the mother of the other girl as it was her dogs. The Father and owner of the dogs committed suicide. Two lifes lost and god knows how many affected.
sorry if this makes me a bit hard on novice owners who want capable animals and dont even know where it should sleep. Mick
By SaraN
Date 27.05.04 20:30 UTC
''Sorry if this makes me a bit hard on novice owners who want capable animals and dont even know where it should sleep.''
In any of my post did i ever mention that you were to harsh on this person?
I agree with you that they obviously shouldnt have ANY type of dog if they dont know where it should sleep because they are a complete novice. Every dog (no matter what breed/ where it comes from) should be researched in to and the guest should know where to place his/her dog to sleep at night!
I suggest this person does a lot of research before she even thinks of buying any puppy or dog.
By Mr Murphy
Date 28.05.04 21:53 UTC
In any of my posts did I ever mention that you said I was too hard on this person.
No Sara. you did not say that I was too harsh on this guest I said it myself in my post to Jackie (2 above yours.) I said it in my post to you also. Where did I say that you said I was too hard/harsh or whatever. I seem to be unable to find the part where I blamed you for saying I was too hard.
Perhaps you should read and understand the posts fully before taking parts of them out of context and printing them in a manner likely to cause argumentative posts.
By maxisleepi
Date 29.05.04 20:23 UTC
in answer to the original question i have rotties and they sleep usually at the top of the stairs as they are a guarding breed they usually like to be somewhere near to their owner but not on the bed or in your room, as you are the pack leader there should be clearly defined lines of where the dog is allowed and not allowed and this should be adhered to at all times, if it is a puppy you are getting it is advisable to put it straight away in the place you want it to sleep and it will always go there to sleep or for solace i hope this helps - and remember that rotties are a dog like any other and should be treat the same but always bear in mind that they do grow into powerful dogs and as long as you remain the boss you'll have no problems
I have Rottweilers (not rotties) and have owned them for many years. I have bred and also bought in puppies. I find that the best sleeping place for puppies is the kitchen (for me) as I spend most of my time there and its the first place I go to in the morning. New novice owners ask all sorts of questions and some of the questions sound a bit silly, but I would rather they ask questions than not and would certainly not slap them down for it. It does not mean that they should'nt own a Rottweiler since the majority of good breeders can tell if a person has a genuine interest in the breed and it is better for the prospective owner to have a good breeder to advise them. I have always found that Rottweilers would love to sleep on the bed and also in the same room. I have found on many occasion one of my older dogs at the foot of the bed if I have left the door open. My daughter when she was 14 years old always had one of our bitches in bed with her on many occasions - too many I had to drag her out of there - the dog I mean.
To the person that originally posted speak to the breeder of your prospective puppy and if a good breeder they will be happy to advise and you won't go wrong.
By Val
Date 30.05.04 02:52 UTC
" I have bred and also bought in puppies"So you're a dealer Rugrott?
By Jackie H
Date 30.05.04 05:34 UTC
Now that is naughty Val, all enthusiasts, breeders or show or working people, breed for themselves and also buy in when they see something they think would do well with their own stock. That is not dealing that is doing the job properly.
By Val
Date 30.05.04 07:38 UTC
Apologies if I read the meaning wrongly. "Buying in" is normally used with "selling out"!

All breeders have to 'buy in' at least their first bitch! All pet owners have to!
By Val
Date 30.05.04 08:12 UTC
Been thinking Jackie, of course you're right. In the ring people talk about "buying in". But in rescue "buying in" is the dealers term! I had the wrong hat on - guess what I've been involved with lately!! Please accept my apologies, Rugrott.
Apology accepted. When I said 'buying in' I did mean buying-in to keep. My first five Rottweilers were bought in and the fifth one became my foundation bitch (the other four were never bred from due to one fault or another). I only breed when I want to keep something.
By Val
Date 31.05.04 09:43 UTC
Sorry we got off to a bad start, Rugrott!! Please to meet you. It's commendable that you didn't breed until you owned a bitch of sufficient quality. We seem to be inundated lately with people producing inferior puppies to sell for profit!! They seem to think that producing puppies is "a nice little earner" and those of us who are passionate about dogs in general and our own breed in particular, are obviously very defensive and offended by that.
yes I know and although I love having puppies running about the place at about 6-8 weeks of age I don't particularly like breeding or rather I don't like the vetting process - asking buyers all sports of questions, checking them out and visiting their area and their home to make sure everything was right. If I could mate a bitch and guarantee one or two pups I would be happy since I wouldn't have to sell any. Some years ago we had agreed to sell a puppy to someone on the outskirts of london but I had this 'feeling' so agreed to take the pup and mom to the buyers home so I could check it out. The buyer had been highly recommended by two well known breeders in the breed but there was no way I was going to leave my puppy there. We left her on her doorstep swearing at us as my husband told her she wasn't suitable and her home wasn't suitable for one of our puppies. She had a kennel in the rear garden with two breezeblocks and a plank of wood on top and that was where our puppy was going to sleep - I don't think so!! There are people in our breed (and other breeds) that breed from inferior stock and also breed for financial gain which is something I don't agree with but I better not get on my soapbox!
By maxisleepi
Date 30.05.04 09:23 UTC
i thought all people with rottweilers referred to them as rotties or rots am i wrong????? the post seems to insinuate that i have a different breed because i refer to them as rotties - i have been breeding and showing for years and feel i am experienced enough to call them rotties and know that other prople will know what i'm on a bout.

I call them rotties too
I think it depends on what mood Im in though
My little rottie pup went to a companion show today
and got BPIS at 16 weeks (it isnt KC reg comp show)
I still feel chuffed to bits as I have had flu for days and
was dead on my feet :-)
and her pic is going to be in the local paper :-)
By elija
Date 30.05.04 15:43 UTC
maxisleepi, you right to call them rotties as a nickname. i don't know what rugrots talking about... many people say rottie, for rottweiller. and, yes, everyone will know what you are talking about. maybe rugrots doesn't really know what they are talking about with rottweillers (rotties)
By Carrie
Date 30.05.04 16:01 UTC
Yes, just like Dobe people don't always say Doberman Pinscher or even Doberman/(nn). We say, Dobe, Doberboy, Dobergirl, Doberpup, Doberbaby, Doberbrat, Doberkiss, Doberhug, Dobertail, Doberpaw, Doberdog. LOL. No kidding...that's what we say! LOL.
Carrie
By Jackie H
Date 31.05.04 08:23 UTC
Think most breeds have a nickname, it is the same as with people when you love them the first thing you do is give them a nickname. There are people who hate abbreviations and nicknames but it is silly to pretend they don't exist or that the term is not understood.
Yours a long term Elkie lover :)
By Blue
Date 31.05.04 12:44 UTC

West highland white terriers get called westies, I hear the later more that the correct name. Likewise even on a show entry they are listed as WHWT so abbreviated. Call them what you like as long as you look after them well and do all you can for the breed ;-)
I call mine some strange names at times. Like out lab who pulled my cream duvet cover off the line 10 mins after I had just hung it out :-))) She brought it back once I had turned purple. ;-)
By Blue
Date 31.05.04 12:45 UTC

Kitchen is probably best for the puppy in a draft fee area. Possibly a big crate for his/her bed. Make sure it is a big one though as they grow very fast.
Pam
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