Hi everyone. As you may have read (choc lab post), in a few weeks we will be having a new baby:D We have decided to have a dog (having owned a male most of my childhood, I am a bit partial to dogs). We will be starting a socialisation programme with him, that will continue into adolescence and adulthood, part of which will involve visiting relations and friends who own dogs. My query is will a male ('dog' meaning male and 'dog' meaning species is soooo confusing when typing!)dog (puppy and/or upwards) want to scent mark inside other 'dogs' (or peoples :) ) homes? e.g. if I take my dog to my brothers (who has 4 bitches) will my boy want to mark his scent inside? I know I said I have had a (male) dog before, but he was hand reared on his own from 2 days old and most of the time acted like a human :D and never scent marked anybodys' houses - never learnt to cock his leg actually! Sorry this is a bit of a ramble but I wanted to try and 'set the scene' - I am experienced with males but not the conventional type!!!
Thanks

Hi Leahloo
One of our old DOGS used to try & scent mark when we went to the outlaws oops! "inlaws" :o
But they had 2 bitches & a DOG so we exspected it was rivirally
He didn't do it in other family members houses with single sex dogs living their :)

I own entire bitches, and occasionally look after freinds and relatives dogs. Unfortunately I found that all the males neutered or not scent marked in my house (not in my presence, but I would find they had done it on the kitchen appliances, in the kitchen where they went to bed). I won't have any male to stay now!! :(

I would suggest you get him used to a crate and take it with you, and he can go in it when you cannot supervise. This will save embarassment. There is nothing worse thatn trying to figure out where the pee smell is coming from, only to discover it is the sofa or drapes that have been anointed, and that they need dry cleaning/proffesional cleaning!

Hi:

I haven't written for awhile, but I'm the one who is getting a male sheltie this summer. Will a male scent mark at a home that has no dogs at all?

Thanks from
Butter

Hi, folks
Morris the JRT has only ever scent marked indoors twice. Once at my parents house, where there has never been a dog, and once at my other halves grandparents house, where there hasn't been a dog for 15+ years, whereas he's never scent marked in any friend's house where there are dogs, go figure!!!??? It seems to depend on the individual dog, and the illusive dog-logic!
emily

Hi! Butter
bet you are looking forward to your new arrival:d:d
He might scent mark in the house if other dogs visit?But He will probaly only mark the boundries of the garden, especialy if the neighbour has dogs

Butter, I have always kept males and apart from when they are babies and still learning about house training, they have NEVER scent marked in ANY house. They wouldn't dare :D

My BC has never scent marked in my house or any other houses.

Karen

... but then I get the impression you are quite scary Leigh.....
:p

I had a GSd male who hadn't been neutered who never scent marked inside, whereas his sire would scent mark everywhere and any where! so perhaps it's something to do with the father being a stud dog and feeling he had to mark his territory whilst my dog didn't feel that need.
Just to confuse things I have a spayed bitch that kind of scent marks while we're out walking! especially over the spot where the pup has just been. so is that normal or do I have an odd dog (bitch)?

greetings,
It's perfectly normal for spayed bitches to mark on walks or even on the morning pee ritual. The one who marks last is considered the dominant one. I think even intact females will pee along the way, since it tells stories to all canines who come past there about her health & wellbeing.
Still, it seems to be much lesser drive than intact males. I had a collie when I was young....every five feet and I couldn't drag him off. With the girls on line, I just tell them no and keep walking. Off line, well, it's their free time too :D
toodles

My third bitch in age started scent marking and cocking her leg after having a litter. she now does it almost like a male, I understand it to be a dominace thing!

Hi Leah,
I really think it depends on the dog and/or the breed, especially after reading all of the posts.
Years ago, my grandmother brought her 10 month old male schnauzer to my parent's house. He immediately began spraying even though the two bitches were both spayed. He wouldn't stop, despite his obedience training. She was horrified and decided she wasn't going to attempt to stud him out after all :D (My mom had been against that point from the start.) He was neutered the following week and for the rest of his life, he would come over and visit without any more "incidents."

A while later, my brother brought his intact male 1 year old Shitzu to the same household. The dog couldn't care less about my parents' bitches. He's never been fixed and doesn't have any interest in females whatsoever.

It just depends :D

Thanks everyone for your replies. I suppose I will make like a scout and just 'be prepared' that it may happen, however, I hope my boy becomes like Leigh's and doesn't dare! :D . Or on the other hand, maybe I could train him to be selective and do it only in certain houses e.g. the mother in laws - what a wonderful excuse for not visiting ;)

I usually have males and I can only go along with Leigh, non would dare because I train them, it's nothing more than a part of a dog knowing its perameters.

Even IF there were the slightest indication one was about to try "NO" would be enough, they wouldn't question it.

Children don't go into other peoples houses and start to urinate in a cup why shouldn't dogs ALL have the same degree of species relevant training.

GOOD forum
both sides represented;)
have read all of them & this seems to be both sided
no bad arguments or heavy opinions:rolleyes:
every body either agreed or begered to dis- agree
we need more of this type of results from the forum :)
OR it all becomes pointless asking:(
new comers like myself could be put of reading old forums
AND newcomers need somewhere to turn at times:o
sometimes their seem to be internal arguments taking place;)
sorry if I've stepped out of line no doubt if so it will be removed:o:D

Karl & "JANE"