i would like to know what kind of dog wouls suite my lifestyle better a weim or samoyed. i have loved weims after i saw rhys a weim that lives near me and when i saw a weim cross in seafeild (also named kenzie by me)i loved them. i also love samoyed becuse i like huskys and i was told samoyeds  are huskys only easier to handle. which breed should i get
satan filly

Samoyeds are not an easy breed. They are extremely intelligent, stubborn, testing dogs.
They make wonderful family pets, are excellent with people/children/other animals etc but are a very vocal, high energy dog and they need companionship.
Their double coat is also high maintanence and requires daily grooming.

I am happy to provide more information on this breed and/or details of breeders if you think this is the breed for you.

Regards
Jessie

Hi,

Being a Samoyed owner myself, this is going to sound rather bias!  Samoyeds are a highly intelligent breed that thrive on human companionship.  They get on extremely well with other animals in and out of the household.  They can chase small animals such as cats but in my experience it's just for play!  As Jessie said in her post, they are EXTREMELY vocal.  They have a very high pitched bark that goes right through you.  They also like to 'talk' in the way of 'woowoo' noises!  They need a fair amount of exercise and off leash exercise isn't recommended as they tend to bolt as soon as they see a person/dog/squirrel......you get my point!   Nanuk is the best dog I have ever owned.  She is extremely loving and likes nothing more than a big cuddle on the sofa!  I also own a Malamute and they get on really well.

If you love vacuuming then a Sam is for you!  No really they are not that bad.  They go through 2 moulting seasons per year where they completely 'blow their coat' and you will find chunks of fluff EVERYWHERE!!!  They don't have that normal 'doggy' smell that other dogs have.  They keep themselves very clean.  I only have to groom Nanuk once a week and her coat is in excellent condition.  I give her a bath every 6 months as they don't tend to need it that often.  If she comes in from the yard completely covered in filfth (oh yes they like digging too!), I just leave her in the mudroom and within a few hours she's completely clean again!

Anyway, I hope this has helped you.  They really are a fantastic breed that should be trained from a very young age.  Let me know what you decide as I am the worlds biggest Sammy fan!

Kind regards

Charlene

Would not have thought either breed was for a first time owner, both can be difficult, both, in different ways a handful to train. Do not know if the poster is a first time owner but if they are I would visit lots of breeders to see the dogs as they really are before deciding to have one or the other, even people who love and promote their breed do not want them to go to homes that can't or are unable to deal with the problems that the breed may bring.

The two breeds you are choosing between could hardly be more different!

What is it that attracts you to them?  When choosing a dog, although we are first seduced by a dog's looks it is VITAL that one understands the character of the breed and what it was originally bred for so that you are forwarned about some of its tendencies.

I have had only limited exposure to Sammies as it is not a breed I am particularly attracted to however I can tell you a fair bit about Weims :D

They were originally bred to track/hunt wounded stag/boar and so they are not your average Golden Retriever.  They belong to the sub group of gundogs called HPR (Hunt, point and retrieve) which makes them extremely independent as that is what they do, hunt furry or feathered animals, point them, flush on command and retrieve tenderly to hand once shot.  They are the "hardest" of the gundogs by which I mean both that they are not the easiest of the gundogs to handle and they have a slightly teutonic approach to life :)

They are a curious mix of stubborness and sensitivity and, if you are too overbearing, will either "blank out" or "come back at you"!

They need LOTS of exercise when mature. By lots I mean a good two hours off lead galloping about in the open countryside per day; a quick circuit of the local park will not suffice.  They do best when given a job of work to do, either field trials, working tests or shooting or alternatively Working Trials, agility etc.  They require a great deal of mental stimulation and if you do not keep them occupied they will go self employed.  They can be extremely destructive and vocal.

Unfortunately because of their looks etc we have a big problem in rescue with people handing in dogs that have become too much for them.  Also a lot of litters are being bred by those seeking a "cash crop" from totally unsuitable animals.

If you are thinking about owning one be prepared for a lot of hard work :D  I would NOT start off with a male in any case.

HTH

HTH, a lot of what you have said would IMO apply to the Samoyed too.

With the exception of all that white hair :D :D :D

I have to say, I am a first time dog owner and Nanuk was my first dog.  The breeder asked a lot of questions about Sammies and tested me to see if I knew about the breed.  People say they are for the 'experienced' dog owner but as long as you research the breed beforehand you should be fine as an owner.  Now I have 2 dogs.......a Samoyed and a Malamute and yes they keep me on my toes but I couldn't be happier with my choices!

That's just my opinion though!

Charlene

When I read this post I thought my what a difference in dogs. My friend has two samoyeds' and she is grooming every day, where as a Weimaraner you dont have to do that only when they are coating.
A lady also has a Samoyed in our village and it always looks dirty and matted because they cant find time to keep its coat nice. It was a rescue dog and I think the coat was in a fair old state when they had it. But my point is can you find time for all the grooming with a Samoyed.
I love Weimaraners, but can see the appeal of the Samoyed as my friend that has two you could not get two more lovely dogs for the breed.
Weimaraners are active dogs needing good mental stimulation to be happy dogs. They also dont like being left home alone too much.
If you are after a Weimaraner contact me on
silvestre@the-homestead.freeserve.co.uk  I do not have any pups, but can point you in the right direction.
Nutkin

Thanks to all for your kind replies to Satan Filly ( my 12 year old daughter) who is Weim obsessed :DShe really took to heart the tip about not choosing dogs for their looks. She has been told that a Weim is not for her, so shes trying to pick another breed, hence Samoyed:D . Our problem is the Weims she knows well are very highly trained so she has little idea of the time/effort needed. I also feel she is not temperamentally suited to a Weim as she is volatile and stubborn herself! Poor love, she'll be grand when shes grown. I have also told my kids they can have a dog of their own when they can pay for it themselves, so on £10 a week pocket money a Weim is a distant dream. Sorry nutkin :) Thanks all.

Hi, please be careful if you decided to get a weim. My parents  have breed weims for 8 years now as gundogs. Weims are extremely intelligent and in one book which i cant remember the name states that weims can out wit their owners, and trust me, how true!!!!!! My parents foundation bitch, Sadie, can open the fridge and helps her self , open the front door and let her self out to see the males, oh yes, she's a little hussy! So we had to change all the door handles in the house to round nobs opposed to the lever handles. A weim is such an intelligent dogs who requires constant attention and stimulation, and if bored they can become highly distructive. Our foundation bitch from puppyhood to about 5 years was constantly hyperactive, didnt lay down for a second. It wAs like having a child with ADD, we thought she had this but no, its just a weim trait.  My breeders have said this true of the weim and if you look into weim rescues, they are full of this breed as people like the grey pup with blue eyes, but dont realise the handful they can be.
All the negatives aside, the weim is an extremely loyal dog, who loves you and loves to always be in your company. If you are energetic and love long walks then the weim loves this too. Our weims can walk 8 miles when on a shoot, even more if they were allowed. The plus bonus has to be is that when they moult its hardly noticable, infact they hardly moult at all, so they are great indoor dogs, IF THEY ARE NOT BORED!!!
The most important thing is to find a reputable training class before you get your puppy. Find the right one for you and your breed, as an untrained weim is a recipe for distruction!

"It wAs like having a child with ADD, we thought she had this but no, its just a weim trait"

Sorry, have to disagree with you there, my dogs have come from extremely strong working lines and this behaviour is not a weim "trait" .  They can and do work all day but in the house they curl up and go to sleep. I would certainly expect them to cover a great deal more than 8 miles most days even when they are not "employed" however.

I have rehomed a weimaraner who, I believe, WAS truly hyperactive with the canine equivalent of ADHD that required a great deal of diet manipulation, homoeopathy and behaviour modification to improve; thankfully these cases, in any breed, are extremely rare.

I would certainly agree with you that they are one smart cookie though :D

Hi huskymad, I have NO intentions of allowing my daughter a Weimeraner,so dont worry :D

Hi Lorelei,

The same can be said about a Samoyed.  You do need the time and patience to train them.  They are very stubborn and independent dogs.  If it is entirely for your daughter, I would suggest a smaller breed.  She will probably find it difficult to walk him for a start!  I have one arm longer than the other these days!!!  The cost of a Samoyed ranges from £400 and up.  When I bought Nanuk, she was £450 and that was 5 years ago.  If she likes the look of a Samoyed, why not get an American Eskimo.  They are very similar in looks but are a lot smaller.

Hope this helps you.

Kind regards

Charlene

Hi,
Ive read some of your other posts about your daughter training your dog etc. Does she want to do something in particular with the dog, showing, training of any sort in particular or just a pet.

If theres something in particular maybe someone could suggest a breed?