Has anyone done these? Are they similar to KC shows? What are peoples views on these shows?

Hi Husky, I think you might mean Limited Shows. These are run for the fully paid up members of a canine society, CC winners are not allowed to compete at them and they are usually alot of fun, and more low key than Open shows.

I love them.
Dawn R.

Aren't they the ones who set up dog shows separate to the KC?

Helen

No they are run by the KC
Archer

Limited show used to be very popular then they seemed to die out, but they are coming back now and seem to be very well attended. Think a few of the show societies that lost one of their 2 shows a year are now running them and they usually have a nice relaxed atmosphere.

Helen, do you mean that a group called Dog Shows Ltd, is providing an alternative to KC licenced events? If so I have not heard about this. Do tell!!
Dawn R.

That's what I think I mean Dawn.  I'm trying to rack my brains as to where I saw it.  I'll see what I can do.

Found it!  http://www.dogshows.co.uk/

Helen

There is another dog showing body set up
though to be honest there isnt really anything to gain as such
ie no Crufts qualifying classes no show reports published.

and guess what ...they offer cheap puppy registration aswell!!
Archer

I have seen two schedules for these shows recently, to be held in the Lancs area. They have nothing to do with the KC, and strictly speaking, anyone who shows their dogs at KC licenced events, should not show at shows not licenced by the KC, if they wish to continue, as there is supposed to some sort of penalty from the KC (need to find my red book to check what it is).
They have run one show (about 200+ dogs attended), it was reported in the dog press and the KC turned a blind eye that time.
In law, I don't know what the KC could do, as if they tried to enforce a penalty, they are then saying that no other company are allowed to offer what they are, and I personally don't think that would stand up in a court of law. I wouldn't want to be the one to put it to the test though.
The schedules I saw had classes called "Infantile", i.e. dogs aged 20 weeks to 52 weeks, "Juvinile" etc, as they cannot use the same terms as the KC do.

Kay

Hi Kay,
         I did this show, and had a really good day out..... It is run in the same format as a K.C show, but obviously the K.C. have nothing to do with it....
I had heard that anyone attending it, woould be penalized by the K.C, so I rang the K.C up before the show and asked........ they assured me verbally and by letter, that they have no interest in it, and basically what I chose to do with my dogs was up to me.......
It was also nice to go to a show and see newcomers giving showing a go, and also that anyone could win, instead of what sometimes happens at K.C. shows, when they ''place a face''............
I wouldn't hesitate to do it again, and will probably do the two that are booked for this year........
It was if nothing else a good relaxed day out...........
Gabrielle x

Don't think the KC would care about exhibitors but I would not fancy the chances of any judge that did it too often.

It says on their website that the KC has no legal way of doing anything to the show judges, handlers, committee etc.  The shows in Lancashire are run by clubs who also run regular open shows.  Have to say that I thought about going, seeing that the KC don't think my breed is worthy of anything more than the import register.  I won't go because I don't want to risk anything but at least there I could compete with other breeds and go for their best in show.

It's about time the KC changed their stance.  My breed have been in this country now for 12 years and 99% of the breeders have done everything that they can to keep the breed as they should be.  We are not all there for the money as some breeders are and wasn't this the reason that the KC first brought the import register in? 

The KC can refuse anybody it chooses the right to exhibit, judge or even spectator at one of their events if they so wish. It is a private company and who they allow at shows they licence is their business. They may not have redress in law but not many people who enjoy showing and showing history would want to be banded form any KC event.

It may seem that their methods are draconian but they are the guardians of our breed and if you don't want to be part of that you don't have to be, but you can't have it both ways. I feel far to many standards are reduced just to accommodate those who can't or wont abide by the rules, there are Companion Show available to those who wish to show their unregistered dogs their is no need for another organisation to feed parasite like on the KC's years of work and organisation of the competitive dog world just to allow a few people to register their dogs with DLR and the like and for those organisations and breeder to then be able to tell the buyers of their pups that 'Yes, of course, you can show'

Do have sympathy for those who have recently imported breeds and (don't hold your breath) but I understand the problem is being addressed. Was only talking about it the couple who imported the first Azawakh, their owners have been struggling to get a standard together and now wait for the KC to accept it. But guess those who import breeds and try to help them become popular are a special breed with more patients than I have. Watched the Grand BVG's grow over the last few years and they now seem to have a good gene pool they are still on the Rare breed but guess they are champing at the bit now. So I will keep my fingers crossed for your breed that it will not be too much longer, sometimes it is disagreements and fragmentation within the breed that causes problems, not saying that is so in your breed I would not know that, but in some over the years it has been, no good having the numbers of breeding dogs, if half the owners are not talking to the other half and the breed looks as if it is going to devide into 2 separate sub breeds.

Thanks for the replies, I only asked because I found the web site address on the back of a (KC) show schedule and remembered something about a show last year. Thanks Jackie H, I now see the link between the DLRC and these shows, and the reason for putting them on. I shall definately be keeping clear, theres plenty of KC shows to keep me busy anyway!

JackieH, I hope to that some day we will get off and boy it is hard work.  My 12 year old is starting to need her zimmer frame now so will never be able to compete at a higher level than the import register. 

if you have read any of my previous messages you would realise how against the DLRC I am and also how I will be against this.  As I said I have never entered any of their shows and never will do, but other things do annoy me!

We unfortunately in my breed have people who sell their dogs with DLRC registrations and actually charge more for their so-called unworthy show stock than the rest of us do in the breed with our KC registered stock, who are never sold as show quality, but which we hope at least some of them will be :d

I only have a gripe with the KC because their are other breeds who seem to exploit them and sell them at high levels of money but the KC does nothing about it, they will also do nothing to help people who buy dogs thinking that they are KC registered when they find out that they are DLRC registered and their bit of paper means nothing.

I have actually praised the KC recently though.  I feel that they are extremely efficient these days and so helpful when you telephone them so I'm not totally against them :d

My actual grievance in reality is knowing that breeders are doing the above and that there's absolutely nothing that we can do about it.

To be fair to the KC I don't see what they can do either, it is a free country and people are allowed free trade and as long as they are not doing anything illegal then there is nothing any one can do except promote the best ideals. Which the KC are now attempting to do.

We plug on all the time explaining to people why they should not breed any old pet bitch to Fred up the road, why they should do health tests, why they should take time to find out about the breed so they know that in all probabilities their much loved pet is, as far as the breed goes, a total disaster that does not require repeating.

We try to stop people buying pups from unsuitable places and try to pick up the pieces when they do, we try to explain that if a dog is to be registered at all then it must be the KC. True the KC is not perfect but it is not only the best we have it is, in truth, the only one who offers any real means of tracing a dogs ancestry with any degree of accuracy, and that when it comes to breeding is essential.