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Topic Other Boards / Foo / Champdoggers Challenge - AA Milne Books
- By Lily Mc [gb] Date 10.04.04 23:57 UTC
OK, have been 'Google-ing' in vain all evening, so will throw this into the Champdogs pot to see if anyone has any bright ideas for research.

We have in the family old copies of 'Now We Are Six' and 'When We Were Very Young'.  There are plates inside the books, showing that they were used as evidence in a 1929 case in the High Court of Justice.  The case name is 'Milne & Others v. L&E Bristow Limited'.

We're trying to find some info about the case and why the books were used, but drawing a blank so far.

So ....... any CDers out there who can give me a clue on how to find more info, either from the AA Milne angle or the courts angle?

Yours head-scratchingly :D

Marina
- By liberty Date 11.04.04 00:11 UTC
Try putting in aa.milne&others1929, into Google, it might give you the info you need :)
- By lel [gb] Date 11.04.04 11:29 UTC
Hi Marina
tried doing a search from a couple of angles but cant get anything up :rolleyes:
The only thing i could find was that around that time there was a fall out with his brother Barry dividing up part of an estate/will ( basically ripping some of the family off I think) and Alan and he never spoke ever again . Though why this would include L & E Bristow i dont know .
Cant find anything for them . Where they publishers do you know ? Or maybe solicitors ....
sorry , cant get anything else up - maybe someone else can help ???
- By Harriet [gb] Date 11.04.04 16:44 UTC
Do you mean the court case about Disney allegedly owing royalties to some bloke Stephen Sliezinger's heirs who supposedly bought the rights from AA milne in 1929? Or is yours another court case completly?
- By Lily Mc [gb] Date 11.04.04 16:48 UTC
Thanks for the replies so far, folks.  Unfortunately, I really don't have any idea what it relates to.  The books were referred to in the Affidavit of Thomas Francis Reilly Roe.  Apart from that, I really have no info at all.

It's just something we've intended to research for years, so I thought I'd have a dig, but seem to be drawing complete blanks so far on all elements - the L&E Bristow, Thomas Roe, etc.

Marina
- By gina [gb] Date 11.04.04 17:31 UTC
If you have the correct title ie. Milne -v- Bristow (1929) All ER 242 for example, you could look up the Law Report on it - not sure where The Times Law Reports or Law Society?

Gina
- By Lily Mc [gb] Date 11.04.04 18:20 UTC
Hi Gina,

Case is 'Milne & Others v. L&E Bristow Limited'.  There is an evidence item number TFFR 1 which obviously refers to Roe, and in the top right it says '1929 M No. 1743'. 

Would that be it?

M.
- By gina [gb] Date 12.04.04 10:46 UTC
1929 M etc is the reference number of the court case. 1929 - year, M being first letter of Milne and 1743 the 1743 case that year.

What you need to easily find it is say 2 All ER 449 ie 2 All ER is the 2nd volume of the All England Law Report it was reported in and 449 is the page no.

I will find out in work tomorrow what else you can do to find it without all the info. if you would like me to?

Gina
- By jackyjat [gb] Date 12.04.04 10:51 UTC
Ooh I love stuff like this!  I can't help or offer advice but I will enjoy watching this thread.  Champdoggers to the rescue again!
- By Lily Mc [gb] Date 12.04.04 10:59 UTC
Gina, that would be great :D - do you know if I'd then be able to go to my local library and look it up, as I assume I'd need to subscribe or have some sort of clearance to look at Law Reports on line?

Is there any question that a Champdogger can't help with .................. ???

Marina
- By lel [gb] Date 12.04.04 11:01 UTC
Im really intrigued to find out what it is all about too :)
If you find out can you let us all know :)
- By Lily Mc [gb] Date 12.04.04 11:02 UTC
I certainly will ..... it would be nice to get to the bottom of it.

M.
- By gina [gb] Date 12.04.04 11:03 UTC
I guess a library would not have all the law reports but worth asking for their help (I havent been in a library for too many years I am afraid). Some of the sites I had a quick look at yesterday needed ID etc but they must have that in work (solicitors) so will see what I can do tomorrow. Have e mailed the bits and pieces to work today so I dont forget. Ooh if we had the whole title it would be soooooo easy LOL :p :P

Gina
- By gina [gb] Date 12.04.04 11:04 UTC
Edited to say if I find it I will photocopy it for you.
Gina
- By Lily Mc [gb] Date 12.04.04 11:06 UTC
Gina,

Below is the whole text given in the plate stuck inside the front cover.  I will be extremely grateful for any info you can find.

Marina

"TFRR1" - 1929 M No. 1743
In the High Court of Justice Chancery Division
Milne & Others v. L&E Bristow Limited

This is the book marked "TFRR1" produced and shown to Thomas Francis Reilly Roe and referred to in his Affidavit sworn before me this 6th day of June 1929.

(Signature)
A Commissioner for Oaths
- By lel [gb] Date 12.04.04 11:10 UTC
Marina, how did you come by them ?
- By Lily Mc [gb] Date 12.04.04 21:14 UTC
Hi Lel,

They were given to my mother by a family friend many years ago, and have sat in a cupboard in a bag ever since (with occasional respectful outings lol), as none of us really know what to do with them.  They seem to old and precious to put in general use, but are probably of no great importance to anyone really.  They're not first editions or anything like that.

Would just be interesting to know ......

M.
- By gina [gb] Date 13.04.04 15:50 UTC
Hi ya

Have PM'd you.

Gina
- By gina [gb] Date 12.04.04 11:49 UTC
Hi I have sent it to work and will get everyone at it tomorrow LOL. I am only in the office til 1pm though tomorrow as hospital appt.

I am sure there are more lawyers etc on here who may be able to help after Easter - be interesting wont it :)

I am a paralegal by the way not a lawyer LOL LOL :)

Gina
- By jackyjat [gb] Date 12.04.04 17:23 UTC
Gina just out of curiosity, what is a paralegal?  (sounds good whatever it is!)
- By gina [gb] Date 12.04.04 19:21 UTC
It means I have taken a paralegal course to know a bit more about the law. I should have done the ILEX course (legal executive) years ago as the firm would have paid but to be honest I find most of the law pretty boring.  I am just finishing the course actually but as I have been a legal sec for 30 years I have a fair bit of knowledge - it isnt rocket science believe me. I worked in Property Litigation for years (that was pretty boring although I worked for senior litigation partner in large London firm so my work was interesting over all and why I couldnt be bothered doing the ILEX course - I knew what I had to know and that was enough). I am now doing matrimonial which is a doddle and more interesting. Smaller firm, much friendlier and money not an issue as child grown up. Should have kept at it I suppose as I dont know of any poor lawyers - just to put the cat amongst the pigeons LOL :P :P :P

Gina

PS It is a good course to start with if you were thinking of the law as it gives you a grasp of what is needed for the more complex ILEX course. I do it at home and send in assignments although there are different ways of doing it.
- By GreatBritGirl [gb] Date 13.04.04 21:21 UTC
I am currently doing a law degree so ive been looking on some of the specialist sites that i have access to, unfortunately i cannot find the case ... but AA Milne did sell the rights to winnie the pooh in 1929 so it could be something to do with that?
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