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Topic Dog Boards / Health / Spaded
- By loulu [gb] Date 18.03.04 22:36 UTC
i have a good few months to worry about this as my weim is 11 weeks old
i dont want to breed her, but not sure yet if i want to show her.
but been told that if shes spaded then i wont beable to show her?
which i want to get her spaded, and the vet said to get her done
between 6 and 7 months but i think this a bit young. i know i got tessie
spaded after her first season as got told to let her have first season.
dont know which is right now?
- By lucyandmeg [gb] Date 18.03.04 23:43 UTC
I don't know about showing, but most owners are advised to let their dog have their first season and then get them spayed 3 months later so that they are in the middle of their hormonal cycle and so the hormones are likely to be fairly steady. I would think 6-7 months will be too early because few weims (if any) will have had their first season by then, and there definately won't be a 3 month gap. Having said that, most vets in America spay dogs very young, but in the UK it is regarded as safer and healthier for the dog to have her first season, at least then you can see that the dog has fully matured and is not suffering from any problems.
- By Jackie H [gb] Date 19.03.04 06:19 UTC
You can show a bitch that has been spayed but you have to fill in the from to ask for permission. Would suggest that if you are wishing to show you leave the spaying until she is mature, at least 18 months, that will be after her 2nd or 3rd season. If you don't you may have trouble getting her into hard enough condition and she may well not mature well enough to hold her own in the ring.
- By kath_barr [gb] Date 19.03.04 07:10 UTC
Hi Loulu. :)
The proper term for it is spayed,  i.e. you "spay" a dog...or have it "spayed".  :)

Kath. x
- By tohme Date 19.03.04 09:35 UTC
If your dog is spayed you can still show her, my bitch is spayed and I still do so.  You do need to advise the kennel club and they will respond with a letter. 

I would advise not having your bitch spayed early unless there are overwhelming environmental reasons why you must eg you have an entire dog at home, you do not have dog proof fencing in your garden etc.  Weimaraners do not mature until 2 - 3 therefore I would really recommend that you wait until she has at least one season if not two seasons prior to spaying so that she can develop to her full potential physically.  A lot of weims don't come into season until 12 - 15 months anyway!
- By Maddness [ie] Date 19.03.04 10:11 UTC
Although I agree that if you want your dog to fully mature then it is best to wait untill she is older to spay her, I think you should know that if you spay her before her first season you are reducing her chances of breast and ovarian cancer by 50%.

I think you have to weigh up the pros and cons on both sides. If you want to show her and feel that she is such good potential for showing that she is worth leaving until maturity then leave her and get her spayed later. However if your not worried about that then please get her done before her first season as to be honest the risks aren't worth just having a mature looking pet.
- By Jackie H [gb] Date 19.03.04 12:05 UTC
If your % are correct I have been incredibly lucky over the last 50 years, would be interested to know what study you are getting your figures from. It would also be helpful if you told people how easy it is to check for mammary tumours once a week when grooming.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 19.03.04 12:36 UTC
Ditto, Jackie.
- By Anwen [gb] Date 19.03.04 22:25 UTC
Ditto JG. I know my maths isn't brilliant, but surely if you have a bitch spayed, her ovaries are removed and the risk of ovarian cancer is 100% less?
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 19.03.04 22:53 UTC
Of course, but I've never come across an unspayed bitch who got ovarian cancer. Obviously it happens, but a bitch is still more likely not to get it. Just as with people - I only know one woman who has had breast cancer. Women don't go flocking to have double mastectomies on the off-chance - and nor has my friend.
- By Schip Date 20.03.04 06:40 UTC
One of my GSD bitches had an ovarian tumor that weighed in at 13 lbs when finally removed, luckily for her the cancer hadn't spread, the vets had said it couldn't have been cancer as it was too large!  Needless to say any dog of mine that is not going to be used for breeding is spayed as early as possible, never again will I have a bitch suffer like her when the vets kept saying she was over weight, he later claimed he missed it because if filled her abdomin so much iit felt like fat and she was a long coat!  The only reason it was treated was because I had come home after moving units with my husband at the time and we'd left the dogs with my parents, I stroked her belly and watched this mass appear on the other side.
- By Jackie H [gb] Date 20.03.04 06:59 UTC
Everyone does as they think best but I had a dog who had a 14lb tumour removed with the spleen it was affecting, but I have never considered have the spleen of all my dogs removed in case it happened again. True a dog can live without a spleen in fact if has less effect on the organism than does the removal of chunks of the hormone producing system. Funny world really because I doubt those who advocate the neutering to avoid possible tumours would start up a campaign to have the spleen of all dogs removed just in case and while we are at it what about the prostrate I believe that can be managed without too and is the sight of a really nasty, if rare, cancer, which incidentally, is thought to be more common in castrated dogs.
- By Wendy J [gb] Date 20.03.04 19:21 UTC
Prostate :-D

I'd hate to have my 'lying down' capability taken away ;-)
Topic Dog Boards / Health / Spaded

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