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Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / Why did this happen?
- By ROSIEDOLLYJAZ [gb] Date 17.03.04 21:57 UTC
Hi everyone
Something happened today with my 2 bc's, and I have been trying to work out why but haven't come up with the answer, so it's over to you again!!

We were out walking across the field where we normally walk and a dog that is always wandering about on it's own!!, ran over to Dolly and Rosie, not being nasty but wanting to say hello.  Normally they are fab with other dogs and just say hello and carry on walking and playing.  However today for some reason they seemed to get very annoyed at the dog and started barking and growling at him. After a few seconds they decided to turn on each other (my 2) and started having a scrap!!, it only lasted a few seconds but was very nasty and it scared me to death.

Why did they do this?????, Dolly is in season and we think Rosie may just be starting so could it be that????. They are normally very good with each other, they have moaning sessions but have never fought before.

I know all advise about getting 2 females from the same litter, so I am aware that it can cause trouble, but I just don't understand why they did this to each other. I don't want it to happen again. 

Hope you can help

Thanks

Jo
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- By Poodlebabe [gb] Date 17.03.04 22:05 UTC
Unfortunately bitches seem to suffer from PMT the same a human females and can get stroppy with each other. You just need to ensure that they are as stress free as possible to keep any potential issues at a minimum.

Jesse
- By sandrah Date 17.03.04 22:28 UTC
As I was reading your first two paragraphs I thought I bet one or both are in season.

I am pretty certain that is what caused it.  My bitch can get very crabby towards my neutured dog when in season, usually in the first ten days of her season.  Teeth are shown, he is snapped at, poor thing doesn't know what he has done wrong. After the ten days or so she suddenly wants to be his best friend :rolleyes: but that is a different story.  The rest of the year they are best mates, so I wouldn't worry about it.

The thing that worries me more is that you are walking your dog while in season, I am sure you must realise that she could be got at by an entire dog, once they get the scent they can appear from anywhere.  Walkers of entire males would not be very happy with you should you meet up. 

I would keep her at home during the three weeks she is in season to be on the safe side.  Rosie could well be starting hers too, one bitch in season often brings the other one in.

Sandra
- By heidleberg [gb] Date 17.03.04 22:33 UTC
OMG PMT can you blame them poor darlings

Heidi
- By pinklilies Date 17.03.04 22:32 UTC
I agree with the other post...do not walk a bitch in season in an area where other dogs may be, especially if they are not on lead...you will not be able to prevent a mating, whatever you may think! The behaviour is almost certainly because of the hormones, you were lucky the bitch did not get mated.
- By suzieque [gb] Date 18.03.04 08:36 UTC
I think it probably is because one is in, or almost in, season but there is another side to this than what has been mentioned.  Dogs are social animals, they form packs, in a pack the most dominant female will not want other bitches in season because the breeding rights belong to her.  If the temperaments of the two happens to be very similar, the one that hasn't come into season first can object so you have two very emotional causes for the scrap - the fact that one is experiencing her season and the fact that one isn't and objects.

From what I can gather two females fighting can be far more violent and damaging than two males.  It is one of the reasons why people are advised not to take two bitches together, especially from the same litter.
- By Kerioak Date 18.03.04 08:47 UTC
Hi Jo

I would strongly suggest that you keep your girls separated for the next few weeks (if they were mine and had done this I would separate them until after their puppies would have been born if they had been mated).

Most bitch fights start off with being hormonal but can escalate.  If you sepatate them now you may be able to keep them safely together for the rest of the year.
- By ROSIEDOLLYJAZ [gb] Date 18.03.04 16:30 UTC
Hi everyone
Thanks for your advise, I take on board fully what you have said about walking whilst in season, I am lucky coz where I walk them I see hardly anyone it was just unfortunate that the stray dog found us. He wasn't trying to get on Dolly at all, so I wasn't worried about that part.

They have been fine today, few growls but it's been a very peaceful and harmonius day!! (is that how you spell it!!!! :)

I'll keep a close on them both

Thanks

Jo
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- By lucyandmeg [gb] Date 18.03.04 20:58 UTC
I had that problem today, to my knowledge Ellie is not in season, i haven't noticed anything, yet out on a walk today we were accosted by a male golden retriever who seemed to have no owner (as it turns out he belonged to a buider working on a house near the beach.) who followed us all the way down the beach trying to mount Ellie. She was having none of it, but i was really worried, the male had no collar or tag and because i have to cross several roads to get home, i couldn't really do it with a loose dog. What was most worring is that meg is really dog aggressive now and i was terrified she would turn, luckily she kept her distance whilst i kept ellie on the lead and tried to keep the dog away. In the end i walked back the way we came and as we walked past the building site the builder whistled for his dog, no apologies or anything, even though he could see that i was having problems. It makes me so mad!!
Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / Why did this happen?

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