Can someone tell me how a dog gets its stud book number or can enter crufts for life?

(i know if you get your stud book number you enter crufts for life but wondered if there were other ways?)

thankyou

Champions have life qualification too.
:)

They also have a stud book number ;)

By the way - it is not for live - dogs can't be shown at Crufts over 12 years - well at the moment but I think it will come down and not go up.

Did the 12 yr old rule not change for this years Crufts?   The upper limit in Veteran classes?  I'm sure it did.

I'm sure they did change the 12 year rule too as so many people complained.

Jesse

You are correct did not notice that, lets hope not many people will drag their oldies there just because they can. ;)

The upper age rule was that you couldbn't show a dog over 12 in the veteran class but he/she could still go into other classes like limit or open I retired my Champion bitch at 12 in 1986 at Driffield where she was third behnd two 7 year olds. She had a huge party & went into the ring after nicking four slices of cake & a glass of bubbly-she was a little tipsy & misbehaved terribly-not exactly what we had planned but she enjoyed herself immensely

Happy to see an oldie at most Champ shows but not Crufts, it is too stressful for a dog that has become used to home comforts.

I certainly wouldn't inflict a day at Crufts on Asti & she will be 13 in May.   What point is there?  Unless it's one of the smaller toys that age better than a large gundog breed.   Oldies need to stay at home, they've done their bit.

how does a dog get the stud book number?

You can get a stud book number if you have a JW on the new system, win a RCC or CC and in certain breeds, depending on what band they are in, placings in certain classes.

Also the only way to qulify for life is to get a stud book number.

Roxanne

Straight from the KC qualifications for Crufts no mention of an upper age limit anymore

A dog is eligible for entry in breed classes where Challenge Certificates are offered if it has qualified in any of the following ways under the Rules and Regulations of the Kennel Club.

If it is a Champion, Show Champion, Field Trial Champion, Working Trial Champion or Obedience Champion under the Rules of the Kennel Club.

If it is entered in the Kennel Club Stud Book, or qualifies for entry in the Kennel Club Stud Book by 2 January 2004.

If it is entered in the Kennel Club Stud Book, or qualifies for entry in the Kennel Club Stud Book by 2 January 2004 through Field Trials or Working Trials.

If it has won any of the following prizes in a breed class (as defined in Kennel Club Regulations for the Definitions of Classes at Championship Shows) at a Championship Show, including Crufts, where Challenge Certificates were offered for the breed between 3 January 2003 and 2 January 2004.

First, Second or Third in Minor Puppy Class
First, Second or Third in Puppy Class
First, Second or Third in Junior Class
First, Second or Third in Yearling Class (For breeds in Stud Book Band E only - see list below)
First, Second or Third in Post Graduate Class
First, Second or Third in Limit Class
First, Second or Third in Open Class
First in Veteran Class

STUD BOOK BAND E

Hound Group: Afghan Hound, Whippet

Gundog Group: English Setter, Irish Setter, Retriever (Flat Coated), Retriever (Golden), Retriever (Labrador), Spaniel (Cocker), Weimaraner

Terrier Group: Staffordshire Bull Terrier

Utility Group: Shih Tzu

Pastoral Group: Bearded Collie, Border Collie, Collie (Rough), Shetland Sheepdog

Working Group: Boxer, Dobermann, Great Dane, Rottweiler

Toy Group: Cavalier King Charles Spaniel

If it has won a First Prize in a breed class at Crufts 2003. Other then Puppy, Junior, Yearling (Stud Book Band E Breeds only), Post Graduate, Limit and Open at Crufts 2003, which does qualify in 1st, 2nd and 3rd.

If a Beagle, has won a First Prize at a Hound Show between 3 January 2003 and 2 January 2004 held under the Rules and Regulations of the Masters of Harriers and Beagles Association.

If it has won Best in Show, Reserve Best in Show or Best Puppy in Show at a General or Group Open Show between 3 January 2003 and 2 January 2004.

ENTRY IN BREED CLASSES AT CRUFTS 2004 WHERE CHALLENGE CERTIFICATES ARE NOT OFFERED.

A dog is eligible for entry in breed classes where Challenge Certificates are not offered if it has qualified in any of the following ways under the Rules and Regulations of the Kennel Club.

If it has been declared Best of Sex or Reserve Best of Sex of a Breed or gained any of the following Prizes in Breed or Variety Classes at a Championship Show, including Crufts between 3 January 2003 and 2 January 2004.

First, Second or Third in Minor Puppy Class
First, Second or Third in Puppy Class
First, Second or Third in Junior Class
First, Second or Third in Post Graduate Class
First, Second or Third in Limit Class
First, Second or Third in Open Class
First in Veteran Class

If it has won a First Prize in a breed class at Crufts 2003. Other then Puppy, Junior, Post Graduate, Limit and Open at Crufts 2003, which does qualify in 1st, 2nd & 3rd..

If it has won Best in Show, Reserve Best in Show or Best Puppy in Show at a General or Group Open Show held between 3 January 2003 and 2 January 2004.

ENTRY IN FIELD TRIAL CLASSES AT CRUFTS 2004.

A dog is eligible for entry in Field Trial classes for its Breed if it has at any time won a Prize, a Diploma of merit or a Certificate of Merit in actual competition at a Field Trial held under Kennel Club or Irish Kennel Club Regulations.

ENTRY IN SPECIAL WORKING GUNDOG CLASS AT CRUFTS 2004.

A dog is eligible for entry in Special Working Gundog classes for its Breed it has at any time been awarded a Kennel Club Show Gundog Working Certificate or won Prizes, Diplomas of Merit or Certificates of Merit in competition at a Field Trial held under the rules of any governing body recognised by the Kennel Club.

ENTRY IN SPECIAL WORKING TRIAL CLASSES AT CRUFTS 2004.

With the exception of Bloodhounds, a dog is eligible for entry in Working Trial Classes for its Breed if it has gained a qualification not lower than UD Excellent under Kennel Club Working Trial Regulations. A Bloodhound is eligible for entry in Working Trial classes if it has won a prize at a Working Trial for Bloodhounds held under Kennel Club Working Trial Regulations.

OBEDIENCE CHAMPIONSHIPS AT CRUFTS 2004.

A dog is eligible for entry if it has won a Kennel Club Obedience Certificate at a Show held between 3 January 2003 and 2 January 2004.

AGILITY CHAMPIONSHIPS AT CRUFTS 2004.

A dog is eligible for entry if it has won a Kennel Club Agility Certificate (Standard or Mini) at a show held between 3 January 2003 and 2 January 2004.

QUALIFIED DOGS TOO YOUNG TO COMPETE IN 2003.

A dog, which gained a qualifying, award prior to the 3 January 2003 but was under 9 months of age in the 6 March 2003 and, therefore, ineligible for competition at Crufts 2003 is eligible for Crufts 2004 without further qualification.

i. OVERSEAS QUALIFICATIONS.

Any champion from a country with which The Kennel Club has a reciprocal agreement qualifies automatically if it is domiciled in the UK and is on the Kennel Club Breed Register.

Any FCI International Champion

Winners of Junior (Dog) and Junior (Bitch) classes, plus the Best Dog and the Best Bitch at specified Shows in each of the European countries including Ireland entitled to take place in the UK PETS TRAVEL SCHEME. (Kennel Club fully recognised breeds only). One show only nominated by the Kennel Club in the country concerned.

USA - Winners of Best of Breed, Best Opposites and Awards of Merit at the AKC Invitational, 3 December 2003. (Kennel Club fully recognised breeds only).

Wot about if you are an agility champion?

Dilita my old girl is 12 and loves showing, she's actually continued winning in the import register and was still getting best bitch winning dogs half her age last year!!!  She adores showing, still swims every week, moves like a dream and nobody can believe that she's 12 years old.  Not all 12 years and over want to sit in front of the fire :d

There's also a Koiker.  still being shown who's older than Dilita and he's won numerous times too.

In our breed Vetran Bitch is frequently the strongest class, not just at crufts but at all shows which schedule the class.

Vallhunds as a breed don't really reach full maturity till they are about 4 and they are often shown well into their teens.  The oldest exhibited at the club show three years ago had just passed her 17th birthday and had a wonderful day!

Kate

I must say I know many vetrens who are still going well! 

The thing is as someone mentiond "vetran bitch is frequently the strongest class"  Is this not a bad thing?  That obviously shows qulity of the breed has gone down, and although its nice when vetrans do something, they are not the "next generation" and in all breeds the youngsters should be better then the vetrens or in a few years time the qulity of dogs in each breed will be so crap.

Sorry JMO

Roxanne

I know exactly what you mean Roxanne, and it's something I've thought as well.

Rox you are perfectly entitled to your opinion, in this case though I personally don't agree with you.  I am assuming that you probably know very little of my particular breed.

Ok, when i say strongest class i mean numerically the strongest, should have made that clearer.  The vetrans do still have quality, frequently picking up RCC's, however, it definately doesn't mean that the quality has gone down.   The average age for making up a champion in the breed is 5 years.

In our breed, with bitches in particular, they are shown as youngsters and then look "awkward" after junior as they don't reach maturity until quite late.  If they are bred from then they are usually take out of the ring at about 3 for a couple of years.  Most owners, if they make up the bitch, will take it out of the ring and bring it back as a vetran - very few chase tickets. 

Some vallhunds are taken out at 2 or 3 for a few years to go off and compete in other events such as agility. 

There is still quality in the younger classes and very often you can see three generations in the ring at one show, which can't be said of many breeds. 

<<Ok, when i say strongest class i mean numerically the strongest, should have made that clearer.>>

I too thought you meant strongest in quality, which if it were so, would be a very bad omen.

Well now you put it that way I can understand what you mean, but although it may not apply to your breed i know it does to one of mine, the up and coming dogs are not in the same leuge as the older dogs qulity wise (taking into account maturity)

I also know of other breeds like this, but ok vallhunds are not one of them!

sorry (rolls eyes) missed that bit :D (not as agile as I was) :D