Just wondering what other dogchampers use when worming. Did my 2 yesterday with Bob Martens and one of them has been sick 4 times in all, the first time being about 5 hours after taking the tabs. Does anyone think that the tablets would have done their job in that time or do I need give another dose.

I use Drontal to worm my dogs. I wouldn't use any wormer from the pet shop because they simply don't do the job properly.

I always go to my vets for worming tablets.  Used to be Lobatol now another name but just as good.  It works out cheaper too!!!.  For puppies I always use Johnsons worming syrup it is so easy to administer.  Have used Sherleys worming paste for puppies in the past but did have a few problems with it.

I use Drontal.  I buy it online and it's a lot cheaper than the vets.

Helen

I always get wormers from the vets as I think those you can buy in pet shops & supermarkets are a waste of money & don't work.

i agree petshop wormers are about as much good as a chocolate fireguard! we use drontal or panacur, usually panacur for puppies and drontal tablets admimistered inside a small lump of cheese does the trick.

I always use Drontal, I buy online through American ebay it is much cheaper

Thanks for all the replies. Think I will give Drontal a go. The reason we have been using shop bought wormers is because when we had our first dog we took him to get his jabs and he'd just been wormed by the breeders. The vet told us that his wormers were better and prescribed them and charged us £25.00 for it !!
We thought that he was ripping us off and was just saying that his wormers were better to get us to spend more at his surgery. Now you guys have confirmed what he said was true, but how much should the vets charge? surely £25.00 is out of order.

Here http://www.vet-medic.co.uk/product.asp?product=DRON8 they are £33.60 for 20. Depends how many dogs and how many you give a time. Also http://www.hyperdrug.com/store/products.asp?dept=14

Daisy

Thanks, should be nearly a years supply there, that's better than £25 for 1 dose any day. :-)

Regarding whether the wormers have done their job, I went to get some more Panacur for my puppy last month and it was the receptionist/assistants who dealt with me at the counter.  They thought Drontal would be a good idea as it is a more all-rounder treatment and gave her half a tablet there and then.  Four hours later she started being horribly sick, and was sick 11 times in all within an hour bless her little cottons.

I rang the vets a couple of days later (just to clarify, i did ring the emergency vet at 1.30am when it all happened to put my mind at rest, which was probably not necessary, but I'm a worrier and I wanted to be sure! - just in case anyone thinks I'm a bit nonchalant to have left it a couple of days when she was ill!) and they went and asked a vet who said that as it was 4 hours after taking the Drontal before she was sick then it should have had time to get in her system and work.  Therefore, if it was five hours before your dog was sick, then probably the same - although I wouldn't like you to take that as read and assume your dog is okay, so maybe you should just ring the vets and ask if you're not sure....there's nothing to say my vet is right!  But you may find the same thing, that in five hours the wormer has done its job.

Needless to say I have asked for Panacur again this month!

Hi, my dogs have not needed worming since I`ve been feeding them a raw diet, the raw food produces no mucus in their gut on which worms survive :)
Your could always look at natural/herbal wormers, they are as effective as conventional ones but a lot less toxic.

Christine, Spain.

Thought worm eggs were in the muscle so how does the food you feed help - not sure I would be happy with relying on that as mine are happy to eat any vermin they kill. Use Dontrol + on all my dogs except one who had an allergic reaction to it. Use the Dontrol because it deals with tapeworm and I have not found another that does.

Have to agree with JAckie, although I am a "raw food evangelist" :D :D I still Drontal my dogs every 3 months because the do like their meat on the hoof as well (or should that be paw) :D

Nor, as far as I know, do the worms in the gut live in or on mucus

I use panacur as the cattle 10% liquid is exactly the same as the dog stuff and you can buy it by the litre cheaply. I really should use Drontal Plus though, as my crew often catch their own dinners.

According to a few authors of raw feeding & herbal books worms thrive on excess mucous caused by processed foods. All I can say is my dogs have been fecal tested several times & come back negative each time since they`ve been on a raw food diet. But they do also have garlic, pumkin & its seeds(a known wormer) & several other things in their diet so maybe thats why. :) I know I certainly had to worm them regularly when they were fed complete tho!

Christine, Spain.

What about all the wild animals that are riddled with worms, and yet eat a completely natural diet? ;)

Dunno J/G....maybe that can`t find garlic & pumkins? :D :D

Christine, Spain.

Christine,

Before I moved to the UK I never had my adult dogs wormed regularly. The only wormer my dogs took was for heartworm, which required an annual fecal test. The heartworm tablet at that time was limited to heartworm itself, it wasn't effective on other types of worms.  Six months later I would have another fecal test run on my dogs, just to make sure they were worm free.   I never fed raw, in fact at that time I was feeding either supermarket dry complete brands and later on Purina Pro Plan.  If I recall correctly, worms only showed up once in twelve years.

Vet here in the UK never once suggested a fecal before administering worming tablets.  Maybe it's the same in the U.S. now, I don't know. 

Stacey

So why do you think your dogs didn`t get worms Stacy & do you worm them now you`re over here?
I don`t know why vets just give wormers without at least doing a fecal test first or even telling their clients about them, but they don`t do much testing over here either. Thru research on the net I did I decided I would test first before giving them any chemicals & as I said, negative so far :)

Christine, Spain.

That seems like a good idea to me Christine, think I'll get my dogs tested before giving any tablets, seems daft to give chemicals if there aren't any worms.

It is probaly because a vet visit and testing would be far too expensive compared to the average £2 or so for a worming dose.

My own vet told me that it is entirely unecessary to worm adult dogs as often as the manufacturers say.  The main reservoir for Round worms are puppies and lactating and pregnant bitches, and worming should be concentrated on these and their contacts, and kenneled dogs.

If a puppy is wormed as advised in it's first year it is unlikley to have a worm burden other than the slight chance of picking them up in the environemnet.

I think we have all rather bought into the Toxcacara sacsre stories.

Some years ago there was a study done on poo piked up off grass verges in one city (now as it was left the owners did not do the responsible thing and pik it up, therefore one could also assume the owners might not be as prone to worm the dog regularly either).  They found levels of Toxacara well below the accpeted infective levels.  Only got about 2% positivbe samples.

Hi B/less think you`re right there :) Not too sure about testing being expensive tho, I pick up the plastic containers or he drops them off, I label them then fill em & drop them off at his clinic, dogs don`t have to go & he rings me when the results are in. He does the testing at his clinic.

Christine, Spain.