Foods that are and arent tested :(

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I'm a dork and misread your thread! isnt it risky talking about animal testing on here? dont people get a bit sensitive about it? (i'm sure something got deleted earlier becasue of this?).
We feed BARF so we dont have to worry about animal testing.

People have a right to know what is involved with the foods they buy - this isnt a secret state - this is the UK and everyone has the right to make an informed choice when they have the facts

Just to let the naive know that animal testing of foods does not mean the dogs having a choice of foods laid out and they then opt for the best testing food :(

<<<just to add - for anyone who isnt sure what is meant by animal testing -(it does not mean dogs sitting down and tasting the foods and then deciding which has the nicest taste ) 

Excerpt from PETA report:

"Our investigator videotaped Iams dogs being dumped on cold concrete flooring after having huge chunks of muscle cut out of their thighs; a co-worker instructing her to hit the dogs on the chest if they quit breathing; another co-worker talking about an Iams dog found dead in his cage, bleeding from his mouth; a dog limping in pain from Lyme disease; cruel studies done by Iams involving sticking tubes down dogs' throats to force them to ingest vegetable oil; Iams dogs with such severe tartar buildup on their teeth that it was painful for them to eat; vet technicians with inadequate training and experience performing invasive procedures; two co-workers conducting a pregnancy test on a terrified dog lying on top of a cart with wheels that moved every time she struggled; dogs and cats gone stir crazy from confinement; dogs and cats in windowless, dungeon-like buildings; co-workers talking about the live kitten who was washed down a drain; co-workers talking about how they had to go home because the ammonia fumes in the animal trailers were so overpowering that it made their eyes burn (try being one of the animals in those cages!); and cats kept in a cinderblock room with crude wooden "resting" boards that had nails sticking out of them. One of the boards fell on a cat, crushing her to death, while our investigator was there. The lab director did not remove the boards when the cat was crushed but he did remove them when he was told the lab was going to be inspected because he knew they were illegal.">>>

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If more people know whats going on then we can avoid these foods & put them out of business (i hope) and save all animals from cruelty. I will certainly not buy any of these foods now and will tell people about this website. I feed quantum choice made by vetro ltd. Has anyone heard of this? i will phone them.

PETA are a radical pet rights organization that have been known to pull some looney stunts and have more than their fair share of nutters.  For example, in the U.S., on numerous occassions, PETA members opened the cages of dogs at shows and "set them free" because they believe showing dogs is cruel.  So much for caring about dogs.

I am sorry to say that I doubt the truth of anything that PETA puts out if it cannot be substantiated by other sources.   I am not saying that a number (if not all) of the major animal feed companies have engaged in animal testing, some of which is not only not necessary but cruel beyond belief.   However - if the only "evidence" comes from PETA - I personally would not believe it.

Stacey

OMG I feed bradley James Wellbeloved.

I cant access that site from work, im assuming Burns isnt on there??

Burns dont test - according to this info :)

I feed Hills ( recommended by vets too) and that is also listed :( :( :(

My mum feeds hills - recommended by battersea   im going to tell her to put Lily on burns.

http://www.helpthedogs.org/update/

Can I just say that if you feed Barf you aren't necessarily exempt from animal cruelty, after all unless you feed free range you are just supporting battery or intensive farming and the cruelty that goes with it.
Also all you smokers and drinkers out there!!

Jesse

In fact any living thing that eats any living thing.  So hopefully ALL of us are eating free range animals at all times and not eating ANY processed food at all :D

I dont eat meat myself but try to buy free range/organic for my cats and will do the same when I get my pup.  I currently feed my cats on frozen coley / cod is this ok ?? I assumed as its caught out of the sea then it hasnt been subjected to intensive farming (which is the reason im vegetarian)

It's sometimes not as easy as it looks trying to boycott companies.  I switched my old dog from Iams because of the animal testing but ended up having to cave in and put him back on it as it was the ONLY senior dog food he could hold down and be reasonable on.  He had a lot of medical issues :(
I tried to feed him a BARF diet as well - in fact over the years I probably tried everything :rolleyes:
At the end of the day he came first. 
Lara x

I agree and disagree to a point on testing the food. They have to know what works best on an animal, because if the food is no good then how will we know if it will do any good for the animal. If a dog isn't gaining weight then they know they need to add something/take something away or gaining to much weight. I don't agree with the cruel side of testing, but if its lets feed and see how they do on it that type of thing then yes. No different then people trying all different types of diets and seeing what works best for them, kinda like being a guinea pig

<<<No different then people trying all different types of diets and seeing what works best for them, kinda like being a guinea pig  >>>

But it isnt like that at all. :(

People have choices as to what they want to do. Animals don't!

Jesse

Sorry Lel I didn't mean that way, explained it wrong. Basically what stacey said :)

Hi Lel,

I agree that "testing" covers a lot of ground.   If a food manufacturer keeps dogs in good conditions with adequate stimulation and trials different foods, all of which they know are adequate from a nutrional standpoint, then that is okay.  It's not any better or any worse than people who keep a large number of dogs and kennel them - that's the condition of many hunting dogs and show dogs.  I do not believe it's necessary in 2004, but a controlled environment is the only way to test different foods. 

Stacey

But we don't actually NEED to test what foods are good for dogs; we know! Nature has been doing it for thousands of years :D :D :D  Can't laboratories set up to test what foods are good for alligators, gnu, wild birds............... :D :D :D

It's probably a legal requirement if they're actually selling stuff. After all the world is becoming very litigious nowadays.
:)

It looks to me like the worst offenders produce nutricionaly the worst foods!I have printed the list and passed it on to all my dog owning friends and family.People just aren't aware this goes on!(please excuse my spelling)

I tried to explain to my mum last night about the animal testing to try to get her to take her dog off of Hills, she didnt seem too phased though so I couldnt have been getting the message accross properly.  Im going to print some stuff off the website so she can read exactly what happens in these places.

Well even if it makes one of us stop and think .
I for one am going to change his food to one that isnt tested - there are plenty out there and good brand names too that have previously been recommended on CD.

I dont see why one or more other dogs should suffer so my dog looks good :(

"Theres plenty out there" yes perhaps where you live, but not in Denmark

Actually it seems all the brands available in Denmark are on the list!

I do not want to go BARF, so I don't really have a choice. My two cats and my dog will still be fed on Hills

Jeanette

Surely if one food company can produce dog food without animal testing then they all can ?!  And if thats the case then there is no need whatsoever to test on animals.  Its the same for cosmetics, most companies don't test on animals but there are still some that do, I can't see any reason for it personally :-(

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