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By fat_lass
Date 07.03.04 18:04 UTC
My Boxer has a sticky outie bottom jaw! Sometimes his tongue or bottom teeth can be seen when his mouth his closed! Although I love this about him, I've heard this is a Boxer 'flaw' Would this spoil any chance of showing him?
By dizzy
Date 07.03.04 18:24 UTC
i dont think that youd do much if his bottom jaw is so far forward his teeth are showing, :(

Hi,
If you read the
Breed Standard you will find the line "Lower jaw never to obscure front of upper lip, neither should teeth nor tongue be visible when mouth closed."
:)
By fat_lass
Date 07.03.04 18:38 UTC
Thanks for these replies!
I wouldn't go as far as saying his bottom jaw obscures the front of his upper lip..it doesn't at all. It's just slightly more 'pronounced' than his top jaw. His tonuge usually sticks out whilst he's sleeping, yet his jowls get caught up in his bottom teeth while he is barking and playing.
Don't get me wrong, his jaw is certainly not in line, but is this the be all and end all of the perfect Boxer?
In every other respect, he is the perfect Boxer (a part from his uncat like paws!!)

The correct head is certainly very important in the Boxer, as can be seen by the very detailed description of it in the standard! The perfect dog (in
any breed) has not been born, and probably never will be, but the further they are from the standard the more they become 'also-rans' in the showring. That doesn't stop them being wonderful pets, though!
:)
Quotes from Hutchings - The Complete Boxer:
"The correct jaw is an essential part of the muzzle formation..."
"...there is no quicker way for your dog's show career to end than to have him popping his teeth out in the ring."
"...my opinion is that having teeth on view is effectively treated in the ring as a disqualifying fault. It is a very serious failing."
"...poor feet are often an indicator that something more fundamental is wrong with the way the dog is put together. ... Bad feet are most unsightly..."
By sauceboat
Date 08.03.04 10:42 UTC
How old is your Boxer? as the mouths do alter a lot during the first 6 months or so and whilst teething especially,the bottom teeth should certainly be further forward than the top (undershot) but I would say if he's popping his teeth during play and his tongue peeps out then it sounds like he has gone too undershot, unfortunately you can have parents with beautiful mouths but that doesn't always ensure the puppies will have. If looking from the side of the mouth I like the bottom canine teeth to be quite tight to the upper incisors and the incisors should be in a straight line not curved.
With feet they can also go through a very flat stage again this very often happens at teething times etc also I find when a youngster is unsure they can drop their feet this tends to improve with age and I find road work tightens them. Hare like feet (long toes) are definitely a fault, Hope this helps.
By Dexy
Date 08.03.04 21:53 UTC
This has happened to my Boxer too. I first noticed it when he was about 10 months old - he's 14 months old now and its not getting any better. I haven't showed him since early December due to this fault - I too read in Tim Hutchings book that a dog with this fault wouldn't get a second look from the judge. I was hoping that his head might develop a bit more but it doesn't look like it will. I've always said that his tongue was too long - he too sleeps with his tongue out!! Cute isn't it! When he wakes up he walks about with his tongue peeping through his mouth looking all sleepy - he's so funny with it. He' gives "toothy" smiles too!
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