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By dog
Date 05.03.04 14:53 UTC
A young women who lives near me bought a pedigree puppy.He is now 7 months old.When he got i and took him for vet check he only had one testicle.
She told the breeder who said not to worry as he was only a puppy.
She has had another vet check him and they are advising her to have him casterated.
She was hoping to show him.I know there are no guarantees any dog will be a show dog.
When he gets older if he still only has one.And does need an operation
Just wondering what any of you breeders would do in that situation.
Would any of you return any of the original purchase price.
Chow
By sauceboat
Date 05.03.04 16:09 UTC
Hi there, I don't return part of purchase price but it is always made clear at the time of collection that there is only one descended and advice is given regarding castration if the testicle doesn't drop. The purchaser can make an informed decision about whether to take the pup or not. I also get them to sign the receipt which says I have told them of the situation. Did she buy this puppy as a potential show puppy? I would only sell a pup without both descended as a pet.
By dog
Date 05.03.04 23:26 UTC
Ive just seen the dogs papers and he is not even registered.
It has on the bottom of the pedigree Sold as Pet only .No Kennel club papers.
I wish she had come and seen me before she got him.
She picked the pup up at six weeks old.
I can't understand why he is not registered.
I don't breed but if I bred a dog with his pedigree I would definatly have
register them.
Saying that the young women dosn't know very much about Kennel Club Registration.She thought she was getting a registered dog.
I honestly think this breeder has taken advantage of her.
In my oppinion these breeders don't do anything for genuine breeders.
Chow

Some breeders rather than using endorsements will register a littler, but if a pup has an obvious fault will sell it but reatin the papers, as they do not want it bred from. This way they protect their breeding lime from being abused by issuing non registerable pups with a posh pedigree, or giving information for a poor breeder to use when usiung one of the puppy farm registries.
My breeder had a litter out of a brother and sister and wanted to ensure they were not bred from. Litter was registered, so no atempt to hide the mistake, but pups were sold without papers. Her view was that such a close mated offspring would not contribute anything to an already small gene pool.
By dog
Date 06.03.04 01:01 UTC
Brainless I don't think these pups where registered.
This women who bought the dog is someone you could take advantage of.
When she phoned someone about a pup they gave her this other persons details saying she had pups.On the 23 rd of July she was told the pups had just been born.On the pedigree it says he was born on 1st of August.
In my opinion she has paid way over the odds for a dog who is not registered.He is a beautiful dog and she loves him to bits.
As I said before this is the type of thing that gets caring breeders a bad name.
Chow

I know it gets to the stage when I hate to be asked are you a breeder, because I then feel I have to qualify it, rather than just say yes (as obviously when I walk five generations they must have come from somewhere :D). those of us who breed properly shouldn't have to feel ashamed to say we are breeders.
My other pet hate is the person who9 breeds a one off litter with no health tests from pet bitch, and says, well we aren't breeders, as if the fact that it was a one off means they don't need to do the right things. They say it in a most superior way too!!!
By dog
Date 07.03.04 00:06 UTC
Guess what .
Ive been warned of by the breeder.
Chow
By bailey
Date 05.03.04 17:59 UTC
I was at the vet tonight getting baileys anal glands squeezed and the vet said that only one of his testicles is there aswell. I never intended to breed from him and he said he can remove one or two its up to me if I want him castrated. When I first got him being a first time owner I was going to castrate him I thought thats what you done but joining this forum changed my mind and because he is always with me when out I decided not to. Now this has happened I don't know what to do its not an emergency and he is goiong to get his booster in May so I said I would talk about it then. I don't have a clue so any advice from anybody would be great but the vet said it could cause a problem in the future please help!! I am a westie and just turned one on wednesday.
By sonny
Date 05.03.04 18:09 UTC
personally i would castrate. It is a little more complicated when one hasnt dropped but it is possible. Someone i knew had this problem and they were advised by the vets to not have him castrated untill he was at least 12 months to 18 months old to give it a chance of dropping. Also they have a higher chance of testical cancer well so ive been told. (but im not a breeder)

My mother's golden had a retained testicle, and when he was a year old the vet removed the retained one and left the normal one in place. The dog is now 12 years old, has matured into a great-looking male, and has had no bother at all.
:)
By Stacey
Date 06.03.04 09:29 UTC
If Bailey truely has only one testicle there is no reason to castrate. If he has one undescended and one descended testicle then castration is advised because of the likeyhood of cancer in the undescended testicle (it's too hot for them in the body.)
Stacey
By Shon
Date 29.03.04 21:04 UTC
Hi
I'm not a breeder but i can tell you from experience, I have a 5 year old boxer named buddy. One of his testicles didn't descend and we were told by our PREVIOUS vet that it wouldn't cause any problems if we didn't have him neutered...But when he turned 3 he developed cancer...The New vet that he sees told us that when you don't have a male dog with a undescened testicle neutered by the age of 1 year it increases their chances of gettting cancer. We had to have him neutered, plus pay for expensive chemo treatments....I was stupid to beleive my previous vet, you can even find tons of research on the internet to prove what our new vet told us
Shon

Sorry to hear about your dog. It's certainly accepted that an
undescended testicle is likely, if not removed, to become cancerous because it is at too high a temperature. If, however, the other testicle has descended normally then it can be left in situ and will most likely give no trouble at all, and the dog will still mature physically. My mother's golden had this condition, had the undescended testicle removed when he was just over a year old, and has just celebrated his 12th birthday.
:)
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