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Topic Dog Boards / General / Anyone heard of the canine care group?
- By ROSIEDOLLYJAZ [gb] Date 01.03.04 17:09 UTC
Hi
I have been dealing with a wonderful lady who runs the CCG, I have been talking to her about my bc's HD problem and she has advised she has a remedy that practically gets a dog with HD running and bouncing about in just four days, it's meant to be that good. All herbal remedies by the way. She gives advise on any issue your dog may have, and all the remedies are so cheap. No money goes to them it's all given to charity.

Have a look at the website www.caninecaregroup.net/dogframes.htm

If it doesn't come up with this just type canine care group and it will find it

She really knows her stuff, she will ask you to complete a questionnaire first of all and then she'll advise on the best course of action.

Jo
- By Jackie H [gb] Date 01.03.04 17:48 UTC
Hi Jo, not wanting to rain on your parade but no medication of any kind can repair the damage of HD, you can only control any pain. Would have a word with your vet before you allow the dog unrestricted exercise, it is good to build up the muscles to help support the joint but it needs to be done carefully, the only cure is to have an operation.
- By tohme Date 01.03.04 17:53 UTC
There is no non-surgical CURE for HD; you can alleviate pain and disguise the symptoms but the condition will remain as JH has said.

It is wise to be aware that there are some sites that sell "remedies/cures" that are widely available generic items but given a new name and a more expensive price!  EG the difference between buying plain paracetemol/aspirin and Anadin, Panadol etc!

Not suggesting this is the case here but it is wise to beware of those who will make money out of someone else's misery.
- By ROSIEDOLLYJAZ [gb] Date 01.03.04 22:15 UTC
Tohme
If you read my post I did say to read the website, I'm not silly and I would always check before using any remedy, I just think the vets are always there to make money and don't always give the correct advise.

I am under no illusion that this remedy will cure the HD but if it helps Rosie in the meantime then thats fine by me.

As I also stated the remedy doesn't cost hardly anything, certainly not as much as tablets from the vet would cost.

Jo
- By Jackie H [gb] Date 01.03.04 22:26 UTC
Hi Jo, I would have to advice not to go against your vets advice or stopping any medication you have been given by your vet. If you don't trust them change them but don't remove your dog from proper veterinary care. There should be no harm in giving herbs in moderation but continue any medication you have been prescribed.
- By Isabel Date 01.03.04 22:48 UTC
You should also let your vet know of any herbal remedies you are using as some will interact badly with prescription medicines.
- By tohme Date 02.03.04 08:04 UTC
It always concerns me when "herbal" or "natural" is equated with "good" or better than prescription drugs :(  Hemlock is a natural herb but I don't think I would recommend it :D

I am a great devotee of alternative remedies, nutritional therapies and supplements wherever possible to prevent disease as well as alleviate conditions; however it is vital that the vet knows what dogs are being given as some "alternatives" are contraindicated when used in conjunction with certain drugs and in fact can be extremely dangerous.

regards
- By ROSIEDOLLYJAZ [gb] Date 01.03.04 22:17 UTC
Hi Jackie
Thanks for your response also, I am aware that this remedy won't sure HD, we also take Rosie to a Hydrotherapy pool which I know helps to strenghten joints, I just want to try the remedy also.

Jo
- By Jackie H [gb] Date 02.03.04 06:47 UTC
Hi again Jo, not trying to get at you, but a bit concerned, as long as your vet knows what you are doing then I see no problem, swimming is good but it does not help with the joint, nothing except surgery can do that, what swimming will help do is build up the muscles to help support the hip joint. If you dog is small and light weight then this improvement of musculature my well support the joint enough to help remove the pain. Having surgery done is the only way to 'cure' the problem, and it can be very successful.
- By jas Date 02.03.04 07:39 UTC
Hi Jackie, I'm usually the last to subsribe to 'alternative' and 'fad' treatments - I get into plenty of trouble for it often enough. But there is some evidence that chondroitin sulphate and maybe glucoseamine do cause some improvement in degenerative joint disease. The studies have mostly been in people with osteoathritis but my ortopaedic vet while not quite convinced vet, isn't derisive either. The striking thing is that the work has been well designed using decent numbers of subjects - VERY different to other 'alternative' medicine. 'studies'. That said don't think I'd rain on the site mentioned - more have a cloudburst :)
- By Jackie H [gb] Date 02.03.04 08:41 UTC
Had heard something about it, does it not slow the calcification rather than repair the congenital damage. If you can point me to the study papers I would be very interested. Mind you I suppose all medication is either herbal or chemical it becomes medicine once it has been passed as safe for use.
- By tohme Date 02.03.04 08:47 UTC
http://www.natural-animal-health.co.uk/trial.htm

this could be a start
- By ROSIEDOLLYJAZ [gb] Date 02.03.04 12:24 UTC
Hi All
That website was interesting. We are taking Rosie to the vet tomorrow and will discuss with him then about the treatment we are going to try her on.

Thanks for your points, it is appreciated, just want Rosie to be well. We can't afford to have the op yet, so want to make her as comfortable as poss.The vet has also advised she is to young to have it yet anyway.

Jo
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