We have two dogs, one is 19months and the other is 26months.

Until about a couple of months ago they were both very clean dogs.

Now every morning we are waking up to wee or poo or both.

We are not sure which one it is but are guessing the older one because when we let her out in the morning she doesn't wee straight way whereas the other does.

We let them out for a wee before we go to bed and as soon as we get up in the morning.

Why will she be doing this?

Also we have tried various products to get rid of any underlying smell to stop it but it doesn't seem to be working.

When we wake up to a clean kitchen we have started giving them biscuits and telling them how good they are?

What can we do?

Hi,
Is there somewhere else with a washable floor, so you could put one elsewhere for the night to find out if it is one particular dog that is leaving the mess. Are they dogs or bitches, don't know if that would have anything to do with it or not. Unless a bitch is coming into season.
Do they not have crates. It's quite unusual for a dog to mess it's bed.
Sorry I haven't been much help :(
Michelle.

See a vet, this is abnormal behaviour

Hi,

I agree about seeing a vet but I would also look into the psychological side of things. I would be very much surprised if it was a medical problem. You say you think that it is the older one, has she been doing anything that has been out of character for her lately? Has there been any upset in routine for her? You sometimes need to look a bit closer at your every day habits and routines to get a clue to the route of the problem. She may be more sensitive than the other dog, hence she is showing it in a different way. I only say this, as i have a bitch GSD and a male Briard, she is the older one by 5 years and they have always slept seperately. She sleeps in our porch and he in the kitchen, i recently let him have the run of the house at night and somehow she knew this, as every morning we had a mess and previous to this she was very clean. I have started shutting him back in the kitchen at night now and she had gone back to being clean again :-)  Could be a coincidence, but i dont think so. They normally show their displeasure in behaviourial ways, messing, noise, destruction or all three :-(
Good luck

Did not suggest it was a medical problem, said it was abnormal, the dogs are very close in age and I would think this may be a contribuity factor.

>>Could be a coincidence, but i dont think so. They normally show their displeasure in behaviourial ways, messing, noise, destruction or all three<< Do you realy belive that dog will work it out to show displeasure like this, I don't. 

They are both bitches.

They share a basket in the kitchen.

Its never near the basket, its in the kitchen, I'd say mostly in one particular area which is why I was wondering if there is still an underlying smell.

The older one is more confidant than the younger one.

Trying to think if there has been a change in routine or habit over the last few months.

I have thought of one change which is that the night walk has moved from 10PM to 7PM(will be later again soon when nights are a bit lighter), could it be this?

Also the younger one receives a lot more attention from the children who live nearby, could it be this?

She is off for her booster tommorow, so will get boyf to mention to vet that we believe its her who is weeing in the night.

Hi

Dogs are a lot smarter than we think and like everyone else on here, I am only going on my experience over the many years that I have owned and worked with dogs, they never cease to amaze me with their sensitivity and insight into things. It is a well known fact (not a belief)  that dogs DO mess as a sign of resentment  (how would they show their displeasure otherwise, talk to you??) and in my work, have known people that get rid of them because of it, as they are too ignorant to get to the root of the problem. I wouldnt go and see a GP if I had a psychological problem I would see a specialist in the subject.