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By gsd sam
Date 17.02.04 15:19 UTC
When i first started training classes i was told that the disc my shiba has is not appropriate.
the disc has her name on and the reverse has her address and contact telephone number, she also has her chip disc.
They said that for example, she gets lost, someone finds her and sees shiba, oh well come shiba goodgirl etc etc, ive lost her as they know her name to bond with her?
I was thinking that well if she did get lost at least she wouldnt be frightened as whoever it is can reassure her with her name?
What are your opinions please
thanks sam
By tohme
Date 17.02.04 15:23 UTC
I think whether you have your dog's name on its disc is irrelevant. A friendly dog will go off with anyone irrespective if you know its name or not and an unfriendly one won't no matter how many times you call him :D
By law it should have your name and address on it; it does not need the dog's name. I also put the vet's tel number on in case of accident etc.
Most important would be to have her chipped and/or tattood so that you can prove the dog is yours in case of theft etc.
regards
Hi
At our big pet store in Swindon, it actually has a sign that says by law a tag should have the name of the dog and the owners telephone number??
Who is right??
Jo
By musiclife
Date 17.02.04 15:56 UTC
I know it is illegal not to have a tag, but i do not know what has to be on the tag, sorry. Plenty of people put the dog's name on the tag, i cannot see what difference it would make not having the name on. Sorry i cannot be more help. (Milly has her name on hers)
By tohme
Date 17.02.04 16:07 UTC
Control of Dog Order 1992
Every dog while in a highway or in a place of public resort, shall wear a collar with the name and address of the owner inscribed on the collar or on a plate or badge attached thereto
By musiclife
Date 17.02.04 16:13 UTC
tohme- is that the name of the owner or the name of the dog which needs to be on the tag? Yes, i know, i am a bit dumb!
By tohme
Date 17.02.04 16:28 UTC
name and address of the owner
By peanuts
Date 17.02.04 16:59 UTC
I have just done my Bronze GC and with that you have to have by law
Name of owner and full address of owner with postcode and phone number
Peanuts
By musiclife
Date 17.02.04 16:59 UTC
Oh. On Milly's tag, there is her name, our villiage, and home phone number. Would this be illegal then, because my name is not on the tag? We got it done at pets at home, and the guidelines told us to put HER name, our location and phone number on!
By tohme
Date 17.02.04 17:15 UTC
THere is no requirement for a telephone number; believe it or not there are people who do not have phones :D There is no requirement for the dog's name either. This is very useful as you can use the same tag indefinitely for subsequent dogs if you do not move :D
I have done bronze silver and gold Good Citizens Award and if you look up the 1992 Control of Dogs Act it clearly states what I have written.
Pets at Home is only a shop not a source of legislative knowledge!
By jackyjat
Date 17.02.04 17:34 UTC
When was the last time anyone got prosecuted for not having a tag or collar? Is this a law that is as futile as dog licences were? My dogs are microchipped but don't wear a tag.
By tohme
Date 17.02.04 17:48 UTC
I have no idea if and when anyone has been prosecuted. I look at it from a practical point of view. If your dog is found in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night with no vet, dog warden or police station open how will anyone know where to take it if there is no tag and no facilities to read a chip. If there is only a tel number this may be in use by the owner ringing around for info etc.
By jackyjat
Date 17.02.04 17:52 UTC
I totally agree that most dog owners would wish to have their telephone number and name on their dogs collar, I don't need convincing of the benefits for most. I would just be interested that as this is a "law", what are the penalties for non-compliance.
By Sarah
Date 17.02.04 17:57 UTC

We had a mass escape one evening and got all bar one dog back, who had been taken to the dog warden. As she didn't have an identity tag...not sure she even had a collar on

as she had got out of the house :-( We tracked her down and arranged to have her back, we were charged for the night in kennels and warned that if she got out again, without a tag, would would be fined...think it was a pretty steep fine too!
When we had this discussion at our training classes I had phoned the local police and council in our area and they said the name of dog and telephone no. would be ok., because if the dog was at large and the address was on it then an unscrupulous person could burgle your house. Police words not mine.
By Joe
Date 18.02.04 14:42 UTC
Jumbuck,
You're right. The law is an ass for a change. Anyone with the address on the tag is looking for trouble if the dog gets lost - especially if there's a phone number too. Find the dog, ring the number, no-one home (out looking for the dog) so you're free to burgle the house.
Norman has his name and my telephone number. I had to put my telephone number as he never has his phone switched on! He would go to anyone who was nice to him regardless of whether they knew his name or not. he also has a chip which can't be taken off by any would be thief.
As long as there's something on the collar that'll enable someone to get in touch with you, no-one would dream of prosecuting - despite what the law says. :)
By tohme
Date 18.02.04 14:47 UTC
But why does anyone assume that if the dog is out the house is empty.
I can only quote the legislation as in the act, how police interpret it is up to them.
And I hate to tell you but chips can easily be lost or removed!
At the end of the day no method is fool proof and the moral is never rely on "tools" but rely on yourself and your training :D
By Joe
Date 18.02.04 15:04 UTC
Ah ha! That's why you need the phone number. If someone answers the phone you don't burgle the house. Til later. But if you're dog was missing where would you be? I don't rely on 'tools' as Norman has trouble holding them in his paws. Point taken about chips but they're the best available at the mo. I know when Norman went missing I was trawling the estate all night and only went back to check he hadn't returned and to check the answerphone. (He had chased a cat into next doors garden and couldn't get out again!) :)

I've found it very useful, the times that I have found stray dogs (actually wearing a collar and tag) to be able to read the address and take the dog straight to its home! If there's only a phone number I have to find a phone box, see if I have any money (cos I don't always take the mobile with me!), and then find out that the frantic owner is keeping the line busy frantically phoning police/dog wardens/kennels/vets etc! They get the dog back quicker and with less worry if the address is on the tag ...
Just my experience.
:)
By Joe
Date 18.02.04 15:05 UTC
Ah, but do you burgle them if they're not in? :)

Lol! :D
Actually, they come to the door, phone in hand, and one woman actually said into the phone "It's all right, he's back now"!
By Joe
Date 18.02.04 15:12 UTC
He must've forgotten to take his mobile with him :D
By gsd sam
Date 18.02.04 15:12 UTC
The response to my post has been great, and i thankyou all for your feedback.
My question is? it it safe to have your dogs name on the tag incase it is picked up?as i have been told at ringcraft it is not safe?
they say have only a tag with the address and number not the dogs name.
my girl has her microchip tag on the collar also.
thanks sam
By Joe
Date 18.02.04 15:16 UTC
Sam,
I think it's your personal choice. I chose NOT to have my address on for security but there's no right and wrong. Dogs are more likely to go to someone who knows their name but it's Catch 22. If you have a nervous dog, you need him to trust a stranger who may be trying to help him/her. Having a name on the tag might help. It might also help a scumbag who justs wants to steal him or her. There's down sides whatever you decide. I also have a little dog and a tag with my address on would trail on the ground!! :)

If they're close enough to read the tag, they've already got your dog :D
(That said, I don't have names on my dogs' tags ........)
Marina
By naomi
Date 18.02.04 15:37 UTC
My dogs have their name and my telephone number on their tags. Not enough room for my address but then again I should be gratful that I don't live at my mother-in-law's (definately no space then)
Chips, don't they go with sausages or fish!!! Keep safe doggies.!!
i have my mobile number on lily's tag, along with my surname and address. i usually have my mobile on me, and burglers won't know whether i'm on or not since its a mobile :)
sarah
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she's also microchipped too. no one could fail to notice her tag though, cos it's bloody huge ! why do they only come in eeny weeny or monster size ? she's only 5kg, looks daft, at least it slows her down a little...
By Sara1640
Date 19.02.04 19:21 UTC
I'm no expert on anything, but when i go abroad the only information on my luggage tag is my house number (or name of house) plus postcode. The way things are today thats all anyone needs to find you. This is the info i have got on my dogs tag along with my mobile. I know if a burglar is that determined they would still find your house but it is useful to delay most 'chancers' whilst ensuring that the police etc. could find you and return the dog.
S
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