id like to start breeding dogs, large/giant breed dogs.
now im going to need large indoor kennels for inside a barn with large runs attatched.
anyone know where i can purchase or get a brochure for such kennels.
Im in the uk
Many thanks

If this is really serious Then Read On Local Licensing requirements.

Once a upon a time there was 3 billy goat gruffs............ :rolleyes:

Hi guest...Read back your post..You want to start a breeding business in giant breeds.  Unfortunately you are asking people who care deeply about dog's and while I dont want to sound unfriendly or unhelpful I think you should seriously reconsider.  Consider your location, local licensing requirements,your experience of breeding, your business plan (yes, business) - Breeding dog's isn't a business - Your breeds, why giant?  Health checks that go with such breeds, amount of time you have, who will buy these dog's from you?  I certainly wouldn't - I dont promote puppy farming.  Surely if you want to breed so badly it should be for the good of YOUR breed, you should have the time, money and knowledge to do so.  You should have prospective owners WANTING to purchase a dog from you, you should have your breed checked for hereditary/genetic defects, you should be able to provide after care advice.........It's a lot to think about, I hope you will give this some thought rather than add to the growing number of inexperienced and immoral breeders - which tend to lead to inappropriate owners = Unhappy or homeless dog's.  I say this 'cos I care!
Sarah

Well said Sarah :)

Also to add

Are you planning on showing your stock to make sure its good enough to breed from,

My advice buy a pup from a good breeder, do some showing have health checks done, see how you can cop when he/she is 1 year old, have they done well in the show ring do they match well with the breed standerd, study the breed standerd, seek expert advice, study the pedigree, research the pedigree

then and only then you MIGHT be ready to have he/she mated with a dog that has also had all the above done

good luck :)

As you can see from the replies to breed dogs ethically it requires a lot of money time and effort.  Because of the responsibilities for the puppies produced for the rest of their lives, ongoing back up for new owners, it is next to impossible to make money out of breeding dogs properly.

The most that a breeder worthy of the name can hope for is to recoup a little of what it costs to maintain their dogs.  Some people supplement their Hobby breeding dogs by running a business to do with dogs such as boarding or Pet Supplies, but will not be gaining real income from the dogs themselves after expenses.

Just as an example.  I own a medium size breed that doesn't eat a lot.  My oldest bitch now 12 had two litters which in theory made me a profit of £800 (she had two litters of four pups), now you can do your sums, but she has cost an awful lot more than that in her 12 years of life. 

Her daughter did rather better and had 3 litters, on one I lost money, and on the other two I made a reasonable amount about £2000 in total, she is now 9 years old, and hopefully will live around another 4 or 6 years.  I have just spent £400 at the Vet to have a small tumour treated, and she has mostly been healthy through her life, except for a tail injury last year costing £200.

Now the dogs I feed at bulk costs at 30p a day, that is £110 a year for a dog that eats only 8oz of food a day, then innoculations, worming and flea treatment will add a further £65 and Insurance (or money set aside for vet) £150 means each of my dogs costs me £325 a year, without including any treats, bedding, equipment, show expenses, or boarding costs if I go away.  

Multiply just that cost by the average 12 years is well over £4000, so as you can see my two oldest ones have been very poor business,and I expect the same for the others.

Now Giant breeds will eat huge amounts, cost a lot more in Vets expense, and tend to be more prone to certain health issues.  They do have larger litters and shorter lifespans, but it is swings and roundabouts.

The only people that make money from breeding dogs are those with no scruples, who scrimp on basic care, overbreed their bitches, and dump them at the end of their productive lives, that is why decent dog breeders despise them.

The products of their business are sold to anyone who has the money, regardless of suitability, and they do not take an interest in the pups or their owners after the sale, and breed devotees and general rescue pick up the resulting pieces.

Very good Brainless, but you forgot the most expensive thing of all:
TIME. Try working out how much time you spend looking after your dogs - even at £5.00 an hour (the guest does want to start a business after all!!!)

The hours I spend on the phone with new owners, would be owners etc.  Then there is the cleaning up, walking grooming!!!  I just cannot see how money can be made, as I haven't factored in Staff, buildings etc etc etc.

I think the sad thing is despite all our posts, they will just go ahead and do it regardless :(

Well we have ahd a few people post that decided that their ideas needed modifying re breding, so maybe something will stick.

Brainless - your post about cost should be picked up by Admin and listed HEAVILY and bumped REGULARLY into the FAQ section.    You have broken it down so well!

Margot