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By barking
Date 01.01.04 15:18 UTC
My name is Bounty, Im nearly 3 yrs old, I had a attempt at a mating with a hunky boy a few months ago, although I was up for it ,he was more interested in playing with his stick, so I am looking for a not too large weimaraner stud dog,its hard for me to find a suitable boy, as I am not a show dog, just a loved and spoilt pet,however I am very gentle and although a bit aloof, Im a kisser not a fighter,I live in Cornwall,and would love some advice or even better a introduction to a equally gentle boy, my pedigree is impressive with my father being a show champion of some note,I myself will probably not win any prizes in shows, as im a little on the small size, but with my temperament and excellent genes, I will produce beautiful puppies given the chance,please feel free to reply with any suitable beaus, or just for a chat,many thanks , Bounty & Ruth & Donna
Hi Bounty
Have you fully considered all the risks involved in having a "one night stand" with a willing male - pregnancy, caesarians, deformed puppies, dead puppies, puppies coming back to haunt you when they are going though their worst period as teenagers ? It is not all plain sailing you know and unless you are really committed having babies is often just not worth it. Have your owners taken you to the vet to put you under an anasthetic to make sure you have a low hip score etc.
Why not go and visit your Dad - not to mate him but to say hello to his person and see whether s/he thinks you should have puppies and who might be a good mate for you if so?
By barking
Date 01.01.04 15:48 UTC
Hi Kerioak, have helped my nearly mum, a yellow labrador,called yum yums,with the raising of her litter,tried to get in with them from a week old, but was not allowed, so had to wait till they was up and running till I could get my paws on them, but then spent many blissfull moments washing, grooming and teaching them how to be people friendly, My owners still keep in touch with all new parents, and would not hesitate to offer advice and any help needed, I have a strong desire to be a mother,and have kept in touch with my dad and his mum, who would help me find a boyfriend, but the show circle is quite tightknit, so finding the right boy is not as easy for me as for yums, but I live in hope.My vet also thinks that I am suitable to become a mother, so for now I make do with loving yums and our family rabbits, who I sit and guard when there in their runs.Bounty
You still haven`t said if your hips have been scored for HD, albows/shoulders for OCD & you`re eyes PRA/Cataracts tested, if so who done the testing & what are the results? Bet your vet knows who all you`re ancestors eh, ;)
We all live in hope, fact of life we all live with :D
Christine, Spain.
By Fillis
Date 01.01.04 15:48 UTC

I am afraid that if you admit that you would not win any prizes at shows, you should not have any babies. The fact that your father was a show champion does not mean that you will produce show champion puppies, and that is what you should want to do. Does your Kennel Club registration stop your puppies from being registered?
By barking
Date 01.01.04 15:59 UTC
The reason I would not win at shows is because I am a pet and not because Im a little small,sorry if I gave you this impression,my owner Donna would sooner take me for long walks on the beach or rides out with her horse, Im happy doing doggy things and would not enjoy being restricted to the showring, and I also agree that just because my dad is a showchamp, doesnt mean I will have showchamp puppies, but with the right boy I will produce amiable confident loving puppies, and please dont get the wrong idea and think I am anti dogshows, nothing could be further from the truth,I frequently go to local pet shows and take pleasure in meeting new friends.Luv bounty

Hi Bounty, Have your people had you hip-scored yet? Without that, and a good score at that, no respectable boy is going to be interested. And although you sound like a lovely girl, you admit you're no beauty queen. So are you an excellent worker? To be honest, if you're neither a 'looker' or good at your job (which is hunt, point and retrieve), you're destined to be a nanny to other pups, and not a mother to your own.
By Fillis
Date 01.01.04 16:21 UTC

Bounty - your people are going to make you have puppies no matter what anyone says. I feel very sorry for you and the owners of your babies.
By Anwen
Date 01.01.04 16:42 UTC

May be the reason you find the show community so tightknit is because the stud dog owners are responsible enough to know that babies grow into big problem teenagers. Are you willing to take back puppies at any stage of their lives? Breeding is not something to be entered into lightly and if you haven't had all the necessary health checks done, I hope you do not find an owner is willing to allow their dog to be used as you would both be acting irresponsibly.

Also Bounty, do your people realise that if you haven't got a certificate proving your hips are good, and nor has any boy you have an affair with (and of course you'll both need certificates from eye-specialists - your vet is unlikely to be qualified to do this), that something might go horribly wrong with your babies, and your people could find themselves in court, having to pay lots of money in compensation?
By Lily Munster
Date 01.01.04 22:34 UTC
Maybe Bounty as you're a dog and don't really know any better, your owner might like to read this (Which I posted about a month ago)?
SO, YOU WANT TO BE A BREEDER ....
So you want to be a breeder do you? Good for you! That's what I
am, a breeder. But before you decide to go ahead and breed
dogs,here are a few things you need to know, and a few things
you need to have.
1. You'll need to be willing to clean up vomit, urine, faeces,
chewed up couches, ruined shoes, and destroyed garbage cans.
Then you'll need to be willing to do it all over again the next
day, and the next, and the next....
2. You'll need a strong stomach, to be able to stand the stench
of rotting foetuses aborted mid term by your pregnant bitch
you've been waiting two years to breed. You'll need that strong
stomach when you look down on the occasional deformed monster
your bitch gives birth to, and you'll need it when you humanely
destroy that same puppy.
3. You'll need a strong heart to be able to nurture and love
your healthy puppies until they're ready to be sold into the
hands of strangers who may abuse, neglect, starve, beat, or at
best ignore them. You'll need that strong heart when even the
puppies that go to good homes end up run over by accident, or
put down from illness. You'll need it when the tears of those
good owners are pouring their way into your heart.
4. You'll need lots of room to be able to keep bitches in heat
away from stud dogs, stud dogs away from each other, and
puppies away from everything. Don't forget about those last
two pups that you couldn't find homes for, or the rescue dog
your breed club begged you to take in, or the pup from your
last litter that the owners decided just wasn't right for them.
5. You'll need to be able to stand grief and loss. Like the way
you'll feel the first time you lose a bitch during labour, and
realise that it was your decision to breed her that killed her.
You'll need it when you explain to your kids why the miracle of
birth has a dark side as well.
6. You'll need an employer that will understand if you have to
take time off work because your bitch died in labour and you're
tube feeding the new puppies.
..........Wait a minute you're saying by now! Give me a break!
All you breeders are the same. You only tell us the gory stuff,
the stuff intended to scare us off breeding forever. What about
the money? I mean you guys just don't want anyone else to
compete with you.....
Oh yes the money, glad you mentioned it.
7. You'll need money. Lots of it. Probably lots more than you
have, especially if the above mentioned employer didn't turn
out to be so sympathetic after all. Lets do some math shall
we? Vet bills, Caesarean section, stud fees, registrations,
shots, worming, puppy check ups, special diets, whelping
gear.... Let's say an average of $2500 per litter, if nothing
complicated arises. All this must be paid out before the first
puppy ever sells, assuming that they're not all stillborn, in
which case don't forget the cost of autopsies. Even if every
puppy in the litter is show quality (we can all dream after
all) and you find each one a dream home, you're still going to
lose about $750 per litter.
.........Wait! Where are you going? I didn't tell you about
show fees, or handling, or picking the right stud dog, or
government forms, or AKC registrations, or dog runs, or irate
neighbours, or city licenses.......>>>>>>
By Cinajella
Date 01.01.04 22:43 UTC
Very well said LILY MUNSTER...many people think its such an easy job and we are all in it for the money...the one thing people don't realize is that "good" breeders RARELY make anything back....they do it for the betterment and love of the breed!
Amanda
By nutkin
Date 01.01.04 23:28 UTC
Weimaraners should be hip scored before breeding. I own Weimaraners and yes it is important to have the scores done as I am sure you are aware now.
I have also found that so many people ask now if the dogs are scored.
If you want any advice then click on my name and contact me. I own 5 Weimaraners.
I may know of the dog you went to as I have heard their is a dog in cornwall that is a stud dog but does not like his job much. ha ha...
E-mail me at home and I will see if I can help point you in the right direction down there.
However it has to be said if you have not bred before then really think if its the right thing to do.
Nutkin
By tohme
Date 02.01.04 10:31 UTC
It is not hard to find a suitable stud dog in Weimaraners; there are plenty about. The first place to go to for advice is the breeder of your dog or the owner of the sire whom you say is a Show Champion. They are the best people to evaluate your bitch, to see if she has any serious faults which would preclude you from breeding from her. You should not be looking for a "not too large" specimen but a stud dog which reflects the standard which means he will be 27" or under. If you belong to the Weimaraner Association or Weimaraner Club of Great Britain then they will be able to put you in touch with reputable stud dog owners. Your bitch should be hip scored prior to breeding, the breed average is 13, this is reduce the chances of hip displasia. You should also have plenty of customers already lined up; who have been vetted for suitability; ask yourself why would anyone want a puppy from your bitch rather then anyone elses? What will you do if they "bounce", have you got sufficient time and money to raise a litter (£1,000) what about the risks to your bitch, some bitches have complications and can suffer torsions etc?
If your bitch is below the standard height you should not be breeding from her at all!
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