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Topic Dog Boards / General / dogs nails
- By jojo [gb] Date 23.12.03 19:12 UTC
hi

does anyone know where i could buy a dremel to do my dogs nails with, shes a boxer so has fairly long nails which are impossible to clip as she won't keep still, she likes to box us and boy do those nails hurt, so the sooner i get a dremel the better i don't think my backside can take anymore!!

thanks
jojo
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 23.12.03 19:29 UTC
Argos sell them, and so do places like B&Q. They're brilliant!
:)
- By John [gb] Date 23.12.03 19:31 UTC
Have a look at.

[link]www.tooled-up.com/[/link]

Be very careful though. You could do a lot of damage if she snatches when you have the Dremel close to her. You can get a file which is curved lenghtwise. Makes filing claws easy The one I have was made by Hillers Forge, USA.

Regards, John

OK Jeangenie, Why don't the links work now??
- By Sunbeams [gb] Date 23.12.03 19:43 UTC
Hi John,
  Did you get the curved file from a supplier in the UK?  I'm really wary of clipping my dog's nails, so I could do with something like that!
  Hilda
- By John [gb] Date 23.12.03 20:34 UTC
Hi Hilda.
I was given it by a friend so I don't know where it came from. I'd guess she bought it at a show sometime. It would certainly have been in the UK though.

I'll be seeing her over Christmas so I'll ask the question.

Best wishes, John
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 23.12.03 21:03 UTC
Tooled up.

No idea, John. ;)
- By John [gb] Date 23.12.03 21:12 UTC
Smarty pants! :mad:

I don't usually have trouble with Links. Must be loosing my touch. Senile decay moving in!!

John ;)
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 23.12.03 21:17 UTC
Or too much Christmas Spirit (probably a good single malt) John!
:D
- By sandrah Date 23.12.03 22:01 UTC
John

I might be wrong, but when I had trouble with links I found it was because I had left out the 'http' bit.

Hope this helps
Sandra
- By annieee [gb] Date 24.12.03 08:27 UTC
Tried the link JJ but can't find the item. Lots of 'b*stard' files :O (admin - thats what they are called !!!)but couldn't find a curved one. Am I being thick :D
- By John [gb] Date 24.12.03 14:01 UTC
The full link is:-

[link http://www.tooled-up.com/SearchResultBasic.asp?SearchType=1&Keywords=dremel&ProdCode=&SearchButton.x=0&SearchButton.y=0&referrer=overture[/link]

"B*stard" is the correct name for a particular grade of file used in engineering. It is a very coarse file (Don't know if that was where the name originated from :p )

Regards, John

;-)
- By LlMEY [us] Date 23.12.03 19:42 UTC
Hi...

Lots of dremels and dremel 'like' on Ebay... www.ebay.co.uk.

I looked at using a dremel, and had a squirmy pup whoo didn't want to co-operate with scissorrs... sweat used to roll as I worried on every cut ;) 3 months later my dog just lies there and lets me do it - I am past the jittery stage too and its a 5 minute job once a week.

I found this site on using a dremel to take care of a dogs nails that gives a really good 'paint by numbers' :

http://homepages.udayton.edu/~merenski/doberdawn/index.html

Regards Dave
- By jojo [gb] Date 23.12.03 23:39 UTC
cheers me dears,

jojo
- By Lorelei [gb] Date 24.12.03 11:14 UTC
Wonder if a dremel is the tool used to shape acrylic nails? Thats what we use on the few occasions Morse has needed trimming and its great.
- By Wendy J [gb] Date 24.12.03 22:14 UTC
'Dremel' is actually a brand name for a rotary grinder.  All different companies make them, and yes they are the same type of tool that some professionals use for nails (fingernails that is LOL)

Wendy
- By jojo [gb] Date 26.12.03 11:29 UTC
hi

i have looked at the ones in argos but the settings are 15000 and 33,000 rpm is that going to be too fast?

jojo
- By John [gb] Date 26.12.03 15:31 UTC
It will grind claws ok but it is very fast and can do an awful lot of damage in the wrong hands. One of the TV adverts for Dremals a few years ago showed one cutting through a metal nail. It could easily sever a toe if the dog snatched at the wrong moment. Another point is to only touch the claw for a second or two then take it away for a second or two. Quite a bit of heat is generated by the grinding process which could cause the dog pain. In such things as drill grinding in engineering for example, it is easily possible for the heat to build to the extent of removing the "temper" and softening the drill.

More years ago than I care to admit to, when I first started work my "Charghand" regularly trimmed his finger nails on the tool grinder! I myself have checked moving grinding wheels for "Glaze" by touching a finger on them many many times. That of course before the days of the "Nanny State" and these days I'm expected to tell anyone off if I see them doing such a thing!

Best wishes, John
- By Stacey [gb] Date 26.12.03 16:14 UTC
Jojo,

If you go to the web page that Dave (LIMEY) posted it provides very good instructions on using a Dremel.  I used one for four dogs for many years, with no problem.  I am now training my Cairn on a Dremel.  She is proving to be a real test of my patience.  She has no fear of the Dremel, but is fidgety and uncooperative to the max when it comes to claws. 

I bought the cordless Dremel at B&Q.  The one I have is Model 780 and it rotates at 5,000 -25,000 RMP.  I chose it because it is cordless and not as fast as many models.  You only use it at the lower end of speed for nails.  And you only use the sanding drum, which is a small drum that you needs little replaceable round sanding belts. This does not get too hot, even after doing all four paws. You cannot hurt your dog if you use it correctly, unless your dog decides to stick his nose on the sanding drum.  I tried it myself on my own nails and it is fine. 

Stacey
- By John [gb] Date 26.12.03 16:31 UTC
It's not the drum which gets hot Stacey, It is the friction of the drum rubbing on the claw which causes the claw to heat up. And yes, the slower the drum runs the less heat is generated. Also, the smaller the drum, the slower the periphery speed for any given RPM.

Regards, John
- By Stacey [gb] Date 26.12.03 17:08 UTC
Hi John,

Yup, the claw could get hot if someone decided to tackle an extra long claw all in one go.  

The gizmos (not sure what they are called) at the end of the Dremel also get hot if you use them long enough, which is why the sanding drum is preferred.  The sanding paper acts as a buffer I suppose.

I am searching for a manual file that will actually do the job.   I bought a file which is supposedly for dogs, but it is useless. 

Stacey
- By John [gb] Date 26.12.03 18:06 UTC
Hi Stacy and Sunbeams. Have a look at

http://www.pet-links.co.uk/dogs-uk/dog-grooming-equipment.htm

This is not the file I have but one very similar. As you can see the file is curved lengthwise to make it easy keeping the claw in position. I find it useful taking off the sharp edges left after using clippers but you could easily use it withour first cliping the claws.

Regards, John
- By John [gb] Date 26.12.03 18:21 UTC
Sorry, the link only goes to the site, not the page! You need to click on "Dog Clippers and Trimmers" and near the bottom of the page you will find "Double Sided Pet Nail File Soft Grip 6275-153"

Regards, John
- By Joanna [gb] Date 27.12.03 01:38 UTC
I would be too frightened of cutting my staffies nails in case i went too far my vet used to cut my old cockers nails for free also did my local " Doggie" barber
- By pinarello [gb] Date 27.12.03 08:36 UTC
I've always had Dremels in the house but can't see why anyone would want to trim dog nails with them when its much quicker and cheaper to use clippers. I suppose they would be good at rounding off the sharp edges after clipping but surely no better than a good pavement walk or am I missing something.

Steve
- By Stacey [gb] Date 27.12.03 15:23 UTC
Hi Steve,

What you're "missing" is a dog that will not tolerate clippers!  Filing claws is easier for some dogs.

By the way, when I used the Dremel all time I found it easier than using clippers.   It was quicker because I needed to be less precise about where to clip.   It also left the nail tip smoother.

Stacey
- By dizzy [gb] Date 27.12.03 15:28 UTC
ive dremelled for years now, and find it much easier and less likely  to  make a mistake---infact its impossible ./
- By Stacey [gb] Date 27.12.03 15:17 UTC
Thanks John!  It's much appreciated.

Regards,

Stacey
- By Sunbeams [gb] Date 27.12.03 10:49 UTC
Hi John,
  Thanks for that - I've tried to get into that link several ways, but keep getting 'cannot be displayed'.  I'll try again later in the day.
  Hilda
- By John [gb] Date 27.12.03 11:06 UTC
I just tried it and got the same as you! I can assure you it worked OK yesterday so can only assume the site is down for some reason. I'll try again later and see what happens.

Sorry, John :)
- By Sunbeams [gb] Date 27.12.03 11:10 UTC
Hi John,
  That's good - I was starting to think I had something major wrong with my internet!  Have just been going through trying to click on different things for the sake of it, like cat toys, etc, but they all come up the same.  Never mind, it must be them, so will try again later on!
  Hilda
- By John [gb] Date 27.12.03 13:15 UTC
It appears to be back now Hilda. I've just been on and found the nail file again

Best wishes, John
- By Sunbeams [gb] Date 27.12.03 17:06 UTC
Hi John,
  Yes! - can access the site now!  Thanks for that info!  Will order one and see how we get on.
  Hilda
- By LlMEY [gb] Date 28.12.03 00:34 UTC
Hi Stacey...

Had to reply to say hello as a fellow Cairn owner ;).

Sigh... I scanned everywhere I could to find that dremel instruction site - seemed pretty comprehensive to me and why dremelling can be a good option, maybe people thought hitting it sent me a hidden donation ;)... as I said I use clippers now, but only because my dog got used to it [and so did I] before i got a dremel.

My Cairn is 7 months old now, but found what others say is true,,, EVENTUALLY they stop 'complaining' abiut the grooming and clipping... still get occasional protest but pretty much ok now.

Take care, and the rest don't know what they are missing not having a Cairn ;)

Regards Dave
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