Met a lovely 5 month orange roan Cocker in Kendal last week, chatted to the owners, they were experienced owners of 30 years, always having had bitches they had asked for and paid for a bitch.  They took the pup home and only recently realised it was a dog !!!!  They did not realise as they had assumed dogs cocked their legs right from the start and thought the bitches bits were just a little out of place :D.  I asked if the breeder was a first timer but they said they had 20 years experience, the pup was registered as a bitch and they are in discussions with the KC about getting it changed.  I reminded them that they probably paid more for it being a bitch but they were on to that and although they were in fact very pleased with the pup they were going to ask for compensation.  He was a very acceptable pup for a pet, a little narrow chested but a lovely head and a very friendly confident nature, I checked out the breeders on the net as I had never heard of them, on their web site they advertise a couple of other popular breeds at stud and puppies but they do appear to do the relevent tests and they are KC registered, I am simply amazed that such a 'professional' ;) set up could make such a mistake.

I got a dog from Battersea about 12 years ago ...a lurcher bitch ....we only discovered *her* big secret a couple of days later ...she was definitely a he

:D :D

Guess this was a last moment mistake, the wrong pup was picked up. But how anyone with 30 years experience did not notice on the first day is beyond me, pups, after all, spend much of their time upside down.

He was about 9 months old Jackie .....and , once we looked , quite obviously male :D

I have heard this happening before but usually its noticed by the new owner rather sooner than this ;-) Wonder if they got their pup from the commercial kennel I'm thinking of in Cumbria? They breed a hell of a lot of Cocker pups & I suppose if you have so many, its easy to lose track of just what you've got!

One of my friends was in the vets one day when a bloke came in with a GSD pup which he said was 12 weeks old.

He'd been given it by a mate and told it was a bitch but he was convinced it was a dog. It was at the vets for it's vaccinations and he was hoping that the vet would be able to tell him what sex it was but "it's very hard to tell when they're this young".

My friend could see from the other side of the waiting room that it was a bitch. She said she wished she'd been there when the vet was asked that question!

It is a bit worrying when you consider a good bit of looking after your dog or bitch is to have a good idea of what their 'private bits' look and feel like when they are in their normal state and what they look like when they are infected or damaged in some way, or the bitch is in season.

Lets forget about licensing for dogs let have an exam that must be taken before ownership is allowed.

dident they wonder why he cocks his leg too.

I very much doubt that a 12 week old GSD puppy would be cocking its leg :D

sorry wrong sex wrong post ! :D

I knew of someone once who had a Lab boy whom they wanted to use at stud but were unsure whether he would be normal so phoned for advice because
                    'He had been practising on a pillow and his testicles had fallen out and would not go back in again'  :D

:D

I could tell Bradley was a boy from the farting and the trail of mess he left behind .  Also he had blue shorts on (big give away).

What worries me about this is their vet didnt pick up on it at vaccination time. What kind of health check did the puppy get before he was vaccinated? Gillian

Probably thinks the owners are stupid, have found that the opinion of a lot of vets.

No, not the one in Cumbria, Jane, I would have recognised that name :)  I had never heard of this one and looking at the web site it does not scream puppy farmer, just a rather business-like affair.  It definately wasn't a case of picking up the wrong pup, Jackie, there was not a bitch registration left over, if you follow me, hence the need to sort it out with the KC.  I joked with the folk about how they could have missed it, saying "its not like guinea pigs you know", but they had only ever had bitches before and rather thought things would 'adjust' as she grew :) bless them.

I was thinking of another kennel in Cumbria not the well-known one ;-) This one also has a smart website & offer a few breeds for sale/dogs at stud - have seen a couple of similar sites recently & am not surprised people are fooled by them, I would be too if I was novice owner looking for my first pup :-(

Im sure a 5 month would be cocking its leg wouldent it ? im talking about the org post which is a cocker orange roan

Perhaps that when they realised :D

No not necessarily - many Cocker dogs don't cock their legs until they are much older than this.

My mum has a male cocker that is 14 years old and has never lifted his leg and no he wasnt neutered early in fact it was only about 5 years ago when they got their second cocker a bitch.Gillian

My dog didn't cock his leg until he was about 10 months, perhaps he was just lazy?

ive only ever had one male and it was a lab started cocking its leg at about 5 or 6 months old is that early then??