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By miss-molly
Date 05.12.03 17:12 UTC
JUST WONDERING IN GENERAL WHAT THE AVERAGE FEE IS FOR THE USE OF A STUD DOG, I MEAN A PROVEN STUD DOG FROM A BREEDER, NOT A PET OWNER WITH AN INTACT MALE LOOKING TO MAKE A FEW BUCKS!!?
SORRY SHOULD PROBABLY MENTION IT'S COCKER SPANIELS I'M TALKING ABOUT!

Depending on the quality of the dog, in my breed it's somewhat less than the price of a puppy.
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By kazz
Date 05.12.03 18:05 UTC
Hi in my breed its about 1/2 the price of a puppy.
Karen
By Ebony
Date 05.12.03 18:13 UTC
Hi in my breed its at least the price of one puppy (£500) for a decent dog, and if a rare breed or one where you travel to europe for a stud dog where prices are higher, then maybe 2 pups! Some people are considering charging a lower stud fee for the service and then a percentage for each pup born eg £50 or £100 live pup. maybe this is the way many will go in the future. It is a gamble as if it does not work then the stud owner has your money in his/her bank account. perhaps it is worth having premate tests/checks on the bitch? Ebony.
By dizzy
Date 05.12.03 18:19 UTC
for top producers in my breed its around £650

In my breed it is the price of a puppy for all dogs, regardless if first litter, or title. Usually if it is an unproven dog then the fee is payable on results, when the litter is born.
Among friends it is often the case that the stud fee is paid when the litter registration form is forwarded to the stud owner for signing.
Again in my breed relatively few litters are bred, so even a well used stud won't have the numbers of bitches visiting as in some breeds.
In our breed it's price of a puppy ,1/2 payable upfront regardless of out come but always get it in writing that you get another free go if nothing happens,sandra.
By gwen
Date 05.12.03 20:43 UTC

Quite a wide range of prices with my breed. For us it is from about £350 for a younger, not yet made up dog, up to £600 for our 'superstars". However, we are fairly restrictive in who uses them, OKing pups to go for show/breeding, etc. are agreed and in the contract. Others in teh breed seem to be charging from £400 to £500 for pretty average dogs.
bye
Gwen
By jackyjat
Date 05.12.03 20:48 UTC
Why not ask the breeder of your dog what they feel the average price is?
By BeckyJ
Date 05.12.03 21:01 UTC
A very emotive subject!!! I charge £500. £50 is payable as a non returnable service fee. For that the owner can bring the bitch for as many matings as it needs. I retain the precious green form. Prior to mating I satisfy myself as far as possible that the bitch is a suitable specimen to be bred from, that the owners are capable of rearing a litter of puppies. The owners of the bitch also have to sign an undertaking to register the puppies with endorsements etc. For my part I assist with the homing of the puppies and invite the potential puppy owners to see the father of their puppy and any other assistance needed. I also provide a picture of the sire for all puppy owners and any details relevant to him that may be of interest. The balance of the stud fee is due once the puppies are born and when I sign the green form.
I am quite strict with our dogs and only let them be used seldomly. I feel a partial responsibility for any puppy sired by any of my dogs and if any of the puppy owners want help then I am there to give it to the best of my ability.
Becky
By Ebony
Date 05.12.03 22:04 UTC
Hello Becky, your system sounds like a good one. Thanks for sharing. Dont see how anyone could argue with those terms. bev.
By kazz
Date 05.12.03 22:07 UTC
You don;t hear of many stud dog owners that careful which is a shame. Well done to you.
Karen
By BeckyJ
Date 05.12.03 23:05 UTC
I have seen and heard about so many people - both breeders and stud dog owners being stitched up so I am ultra cautious. The welfare of the puppies and the breed has to be paramount. A written contract between Stud Dog Owner and Breeder is never a bad thing.
Becky
By Zoo Keeper
Date 05.12.03 23:06 UTC
The owner of the stud dog we used has an interesting system. First of all, nothing is paid until a litter is produced. Then he charges local market value of the puppies, or what the bitch owner will be selling puppies for. So his rates fluctuate from about $600-$1500. We are paying him $700 because the local value is $800, but we are only selling to friends and family, so we're only charging $400 a pup to cover our expenses.
By kazz
Date 05.12.03 23:26 UTC
Yes Becky. That much I understand or at least I'm learning to.
In fact I am only just realising my "relationship" with the owner of the sire of my pup is not usual.
He's interested his dogs pups, when we picked Sal up we were given a letter with Stud dog owners phone number details etc on it for if anyone having one of the pups had a problem and couldn't get hold of the bitches owner at the time. Also a pic of the stud dog plus a list of his achievments and his health check scores, also a nice personal note on his likes dislikes and temp in general, a really nice touch, and a pic of the dog at home :D
The owner of the stud dog also made arragments for anyone who wanted who was buying a pup to go and see the stud dog, or meet at a localish show, and for you to speak to owners of pups already sired by the dog. He has always been really nice and friendly introducing me around if I've attended a show he's been at, even though he's only meet me once previously and obviously dosen't have to do this.
Maybe I'm lucky or maybe I got the benefit for the amount of work I put into researching to find the right breeder.
Karen
By JaneS (Moderator)
Date 05.12.03 23:22 UTC
Stud fees in Cockers are generally quite low compared with other breeds. The average for a quality, well-bred dog seems to be around £250-£300 (including some Show Champions).

In Spanish it's the price of a puppy £600.

Very low in Rough Collies - around £125-£150. Pups are selling at approx. £400-£500, so stud fees are well behind.
M.
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