Hi.

Of those who breed, do you expect your pups to go to homes where prople are there all day?
Just interested. I am angry with one breeder about something to do with this, and would like to know what you all think and if it is practical. Also- how do you treat people who contact you but don't meet your requirements?

Thankyou.

(sorry if it sounded angry or rude... not delibrate)

Hi,
Tricky one. I won't sell to ahome where there is nobody home all day. Shiftworkers, on different shifts, are okay. People who can take the dog to work with them are fine too.

And if people don't meet my requirements I'll politely (at first anyway!) simply tell them no. They're my babies, and I'm particular who gets them!
:)

To be honist i dont think that just  because a owner has all day at home will make him/her any better then if they worked .there surely must be bad owners who stay holme all day ,and fab owners who work .
I hope that any breeder who dosent think that the persons not good enough for there pup will at very least be polight about telling you no.  id be interested in whats replied too :)

I don't expect people to be home all day BUT I will NEVER knowingly home a pup to someone who works full time or is out of the house on a daily basis more than a certain number of hours.

This is my rule resulting from experience and I won't deviate from it.  It is not a necessity to have a puppy just because you want one, I had to wait thirteen years to get my first pup after I got married.  There are a lot of people who don't care where their pups go and who will home to anyone, if someone can't wait till their circumstances are more suitable they can go to one of those breeders and then dump their pup in rescue a few months later.

I do try and put this view across more gently and politely than it comes over above

This is my opinion with my breed and I am aware that others differ.

Christine

Yes, i agree with you all. Thankyou. I jsut know of a lady who- after being sentan email from one of my friends regarding a pup- got a horrible message back  saying that she whould rather give her pups to a caring home with people to love the pup rather than one where people leave the dog for some length of time.

My friend told the truth in that the dog will be left for a few hours, but the breeder was so rude to her and it sounded like she was talking to my friend as one of thoes people who leave their dogs for hours on end, come home, and dont really love them at all. The cheek. She has no idea.

She also said to my friend that she did not waht ner dogs trapped in a home or kenel by their owners.

Ok so I can't understand why the breeder was so rude, but given the choice of the two scenarios you mentioned i would plump for the first one.

wooo hold on there. just because a owner is at work all day dosent mean that they will dump the pup the person can still be a good owner by finding it a new holme that will have the time.

EXACTLY!

We cant all work at home all the time! She could have at least said- sorry, but i think it best for my pups to go to people who work at home rather than the abuse she got.

I don't usually sell to owners who will be out all day. I'll probaly be shot down for this, but I'd rather sell to people who work than some people who are at home all day & have young children. It's my experience that the dog always comes off worse in a busy family where time is short. when something has to go, it's usually the dog (People just won't rehome the baby for some reason)

I don't usually sell to owners who will be out all day. I'll probably be shot down for this, but I'd rather sell to people who work than some people who are at home all day & have young children. It's my experience that the dog always comes off worse in a busy family where time is short. when something has to go, it's usually the dog (People just won't rehome the baby for some reason)

Anwen i won't shoot you down lol ;) When my daughter (age 4) was diagnosed i had to finish work so i took a part-time college course then when things were tough at home (daughters health) i had to finish that.
I was severely depressed, my husband worked away and we decided to get a dog (not just because of that) and it has given me a whole new lease of life, we adore our dog more than words can say, i have lost nearly 2stone now (with walking) i look good, i feel great, my daughter is very content.
Dolly was the best thing ever to come in this family, please don't tar all 'busy' families with the same brush :) In our eyes we just added another family member (Dog?? NOoooo lol)
Regards......Sarah

I didn't - that's why I said some people! I might even have let you have one of my puppies!!

Sorry didn't mean to offend was just saying my side of the 'busy family' coin.

Sorry, sorry sorry! I wasn't offended. Didn't mean that to all come out in italics. I usually check things, but lost my connection & then got distracted!!! Only meant to saysome people. :D

lol it's ok i had to re-read my post and see if i'd offended, because i'd hate to think i did.
Anwen i just had a look at your website where in Wales are you? We are moving to Anglesey and as we will obviously be leaving our ringcraft i was wondering do you know any near me?
I don't show, i mainly go for obedience and socialising. :)

Mygirl
have emailed you with some info!!

<<<People just won't rehome the baby for some reason>>>

Some days it's soooo tempting though ;)

That's true Anwen, a story we hear all too often at dog club - oh, such and such is having a baby, does anyone know anyone that wants a dog!  Even when I got Sherrie, our rescue collie, there were dogs there from the same situation - and saying that, I was home all day with two young children - that didn't mean I didn't have time for this dog coming into our family though!  From day one she has gone to obedience and agility, and the children have come with us, my daughter used to sit in her pushchair (she is now 9).  I now have a 3 year old child as well - and another dog aged 19 months also working obedience and agility - I don't feel I've ever had a problem having enough time for both kids and dogs, but I guess everybody's different!  Admittedly our collie is getting older now, she's 11, but I will hopefully be getting another addition to our family early next year (yes, one with four paws!).
  Hilda

What you have just said Christine, goes for me too, almost word for word.

This was for a cocker spaniel. Automaticall yassumed, because my friend was honest and said the dog will be left for about 2 hours a day, that my friend was irrisponsable. I think it is rediclulas.

Tots you can email me if you like. I know exactly what you mean your freind only works a few hours yet the breeder brands her as a dog ditcher.

I am astonished at the amount of people that contact us looking for a pup and both husband and wife work full time, just yesterday a lady said to me 'the pup will only be alone for a maximum of 5 hrs'  I am in no way suggesting that these people would not love the dog but I would realy like to know how these people train their 'puppy' to beome a well socialised 'dog' and not just house-training but manners and not to destroy the house.

Debbie,
Were the people prepared to take any time off work for the pup to settle in?
Would you be prepared for the dog, once older to be left for 5 hours?
Just wondering because both my BC's breeders knew that the dogs would be left from approx 9-12.30 and 1.30-4, and didn't have any problems with that.

Charl123. What age are you referring to, a pup goes through five critical stages of development, so I can not comment precisely without knowing the age of the dog that you are referring to. But  hopefully by 20wks the new owner has a well adjusted correctly socialised young dog, who has also learnt to spend some time alone. It is the weeks preceeding this period that are so important and in particular 7-12 wks, a pups contact with people during this phase is the whole key to his emotional and social success within human society.
I note that you say dogs, did you have two together? If so did you find that  they bonded to each other far more than their humans?
Regards,  Debbie.

I have read this post with interest as it is difficult for the
breeder to really know whats best for the dog and family.
We do try our best, but sometimes it does not work out.
I usually dont sell to people that work away from home
every day. But I do appreciate that everyone has to earn
a living. So its a balance and I take everyone on their own
merit. I think your friend is to be commended for being honest.
As I hate it when people lie to me.
I have just taken back a bitch I bred. She is two years of age.
The owners were with her a lot in the first year then their circumstances
changed and they had to leave the dog all day long every day.
The dog got destructive and destroyed the womans mattress,
lounge furniture and carpets. She called me in desperation as I always
say I will take back a dog I have bred if needed. I had to go and get
this girl. She is a problem dog at the moment, but is improving daily.
She needs attention during the day. If not and I have to go out I
crate her.
Maybe this breeder has had lots of experince of dogs being homed again
due to owners being out. Unfortunately for your friend she did not say
it in a kind way.