we have a bull terrier pup who is now 14 weeks old he is a lovely dog in every way until it comes to walking i can walk him up and down the garden like a well trained attentive dog but as soon as we go outside into the real world he does not want to know , digging in really hard ...whowever if we both go he is ok but this is hardly possible as we work shifts ...any ideas ??

What do you mean doesn't want to know?
Does he refuse to move/walk?

he just pulls back and tries to go home basiclly lies down or just stands still

Ok well mine did this, and she flatly refused to move, i took her to the park and let her off the lead (i had to carry her to the middle of the field) and i started walking, i think her fear of losing me overcame the fear of walking so she followed.
With regards to walking on the pavement i'm afraid i resorted to treat treat treat (diced sausage).
Other people will come and say what worked for them!! Don't worry :D

thanks for that will give it a go :-)

I have exactly the same problem with my 13 week old OES.  He flatly refuses to budge once on the footpath and yet is as lively as anything in the garden.  He is fine with having his lead on, just hates to walk. We have tried sitting at the front of the house with him so that he can get used to the sights and sounds, but he hates cars and although we live on a quiet road, he lies down or tries to run home (when we get a few feet from the front door that is) if a vehicle is anywhere in the street with a motor running.  He doesn't mind being in our vehicle, in fact he quite likes it.  Even on a day with no vehicular movements however, he just will not budge. Last night, my daughter and I made a concerted effort and armed with treats, we ventured out together.  With lots of praise for standing and treats for coming to me, standing a little way ahead of my daughter who had Barney on the lead, we got almost to the end of the road!  Turning for home, we came back in a fraction of the time it had taken to get up the road (about 40 mins) but it was progress.  I think we just need to build his confidence and if we carry on doing this a couple of times a day (traffic permitting) I think we may achieve our aim and actually walk as far as the park, just around the corner in the next street. Lots of patience, encouragement and understanding needed on our part, and a thick skin when passing pedestrians chuckle at our dilema, but we will get there in the end.

Basically he's scared! He has more confidence when everyone he knows is with him. Give him time, and take it bit by bit. For now, stand with him by your front gate till he's relaxed there (5, 10 minutes? however long), then, when you see he's realised it's safe there, set off a few paces, calling him happily and confidently (and rewarding with titbits!). The first time even 10 steps would be a major achievement!

For the rest of his socialisation, carry on as you did before he had finished his injections - carry him to places, drive him to places - but now you can safely put him down when you get there!
:)

Sparky is still scared of traffic at 6 months. We have good days and bad days, but when he hits a low point, the girls sit at the end of our drive with him, just watching the traffic and giving him treats.
Tracy

my 5 month old pup was dead overwhelmed by the traffic and the outside world in general when she first got taken out - basically ot get her over that i played with her and did training with lots of v high value treats (baked bacon, cheese, baked liver) at the end of our drive - at first had to find her tolerence point (ie where she wasn't so bothered by everything that she completely wasn't interested in toys/treats - we've got a long drive but could v conceiveably be on your front doorstep i guess) and then gradually increased the nearness to the road & the length of time we stayed out there.

It took a little while but now she LOVES going out more than you would believe.

Oh - I saw your other post too, about getting excited over new people, well our pup was like that too (attention esp from a new person is about the highest value treat she can get!) and i think what really turned the walking situation in her mind was meeting people on the pavement, both new people & other family members (i got mum to call me when she was walking home and we went out to meet her on the pavement.) Maybe try that too, if you've got anyone who can help - basically find anything that's powerful enough to distract pup from his worries and turn the situation into an enjoyable one.

thanks that sounds like an excellent idea i thought we had cracked it today but as we got to the end of the road he dug in sat down and after about ten mins i conceeded and its amazing how well he walks back :-)

Hi,

I did the same sort of thing with Sal the idea being that she associated walking with meeting people she loves, as we always "meet" one of the family on her first dozen or so trips out, then carried on walking a little further, then home. Same as the car we always went somewhere she loves like my sisters (seeing the children) and the vets just to pop in and be weighed and fussed(she adores the vets she went to baby puppy classes there) 

Karen

hi
i am going to give it a go tomorrow and meet some one at the end of the road like my daughter weather permitting because that would be a problem ..not the dog ..my daughter ..he loves her and she loves him even though she will have us believe its uncool to be seen with a dog :-D

Just a note don't turn round and come straight home, go a little walk the three of you, then come home.
Karen

point noted will let you know how it works

Terry how did it go?

Karen

I'm interested too - if my Dane does this I'll need to phone a taxi to get her from the end of the street ;)

hi karen
all i can say is that we are getting there big time ,he came out of the house like a rocket then uh oh( i am off on one of them walks ) and bosh down went his behind .secret weapon to the rescue my daughter on the mobile ..stand at the end of the road and call him . whoosh off he went i had to hold him back for the first time then we got devious she went about one hundred yards ahead all the time and he was loving it .you could almost hear him panting (got to get to her ). i stopped him phoned her and told her to go home and he spent the rest of the walk looking for her it was the first time i believe we both enjoyed it :-)
today he was a bit stubborn but after about 20 meters he must have remebered so off he went again this time well behaved
thanks for the advise in my case big result :-) :-)

Fantastic result! Well done for outsmarting him!

Just wait, your next problem will be stopping him pulling on the lead! ;)

I'm so pleased, once he gets the hand of enjoying walks (sounds like he's started that) then he'll love his walks, I know it sounds silly but while he's still little take him on trains/buses or anything else he might come into contact with when he's older.  Try the same thing someone he knows already on board (who got on the stop before or something) Then he'll know he's okay, you don't want to "fight" a full grown EBT dog to get on a train etc.

Give it a go, if you can find one with the training classes too because for dogs like ours Staffies/EBT they get really excited by other dogs and "put other people off" meeting us. It's good socialisation.

Really pleased it worked.

Karen

Well done for getting him over it.  Did you socialise him outside much before he was finished his jabs?  I like to get pups used to all kinds of situations well before they're allowed out on the ground.  I took my last one, in my arms, into town, to the train station, for walks (older dog on leash, pup in arms) and everywhere we could think of in order to expose her to all of this.  By the time she was ready to be walked she'd already been in all those situations and was eager to explore it from her new perspective.  Just some thought on how to maybe prevent the situation.

btw - since my girl was a pup they have now (finally) come out with some really good puppy carrier bags so it's MUCH easier than when I did it.

Wendy