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- By claresanders [gb] Date 23.11.03 20:09 UTC
I am trying in vain to get a chihuahua puppy, I have contacted all the breeders listed on this site and NOT one single breeder of about 20 have returned my email, even if they couldnt help you would think they would let me now, anyone else having problems ? does anyone know of any breeders other than those listed on champdogs that may be having chihuahua puppys ?

thank in advance
- By jess123 [gb] Date 23.11.03 20:15 UTC
breeders are very busy people, give them time.
good luck! x
- By Fillis Date 23.11.03 20:25 UTC
Sorry, thats no excuse. I always make sure I reply to people making enquiries, its rude not to and however busy anyone is, it doesn't take much time.
- By jess123 [gb] Date 23.11.03 20:46 UTC
i agree, it just i know how busy some breeders can be, they will always reply.

good luck in your search x
- By lel [gb] Date 23.11.03 20:46 UTC
They may not be on the PC all the time . Not everyone sits at the PC everyday like me ;)
lel
- By claresanders [gb] Date 23.11.03 21:41 UTC
Hi I am aware of the above issues you have stated but some of the mesages i snt 3 weeks ago, I just think that champdogs should think of advertising breeders who will actually reply to prospective customers, Thanks for your opinions
- By jess123 [gb] Date 23.11.03 21:45 UTC
yes i agree claire
- By luvly [gb] Date 23.11.03 22:10 UTC
I agree to and it dosent make you want to contact them at a later time, when your in search of another puppy;)
- By Fillis Date 23.11.03 22:23 UTC
The way I see it, is if you have no puppies now, you will in the future, so if you are always helpful, you could get a recommendation, which is surely the best way to find good owners.
- By Jane [gb] Date 23.11.03 22:36 UTC
Clare, someone i know emailed over 20 breeders regarding a pup, and only one returned her emails, and they kept good friends over the last 2 yrs, she may not have got a pup from her as she had none at that time, but she did send her in the right direction. It doesnt take long to answer an email, breeder or not. Good luck in your search.
- By Melodysk [gb] Date 23.11.03 22:39 UTC
Miracle workers they ain't ;)

Whilst Champdogs can accept Breeders onto their lists ..there is no way they can MAKE them reply to requests for information ;)
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 23.11.03 22:50 UTC
Just out of interest, how long ago did you email them? I know many people who only check their emails once a week ...
:)
- By dizzy [gb] Date 23.11.03 22:53 UTC
i always reply, and will help someone find a well bred puppy if i havent any/ --it doesnt take up that much time/
- By Fillis Date 23.11.03 22:54 UTC
It is a free service, and anyone can put their details on. I dare say some have never updated details, or just had one litter. Have you contacted the breed club secretary and the Kennel Club?
- By claresanders [gb] Date 23.11.03 23:39 UTC
Hi

thank for the replys yeah it was 3 weeks ago that i emailed the majority of the breeders listed on this site, surely champdog should monitor this I know they cant make them reply, but surely those that dont arnt an all that good of advert for your site
- By liberty Date 23.11.03 23:45 UTC
That's a bit harsh Clare, and as I understand it, it's not up to CD Admin to make people reply to email generated from this site.
I hope you find the info you're looking for.

liberty
- By claresanders [gb] Date 24.11.03 00:04 UTC
I dont think the truth is harsh, thankyou very much, I would of thought that breeders that champdogs obviously endorse would at least reply, we are all warned about buying from backyard breeders, newspapers etc, but when you try to buy a puppy from a certified and reccommended breeder you dont get one answer from 20 emails in 3 weeks I think thats a bit crap not harsh, dont you liberty ! if its too harsh for you dont read it, I was only making an observation on the breeder service provided by champdogs not saying anything about champdogs (as I think its a wonderful site full of mainley wonderful people) and for your info if you had read my previous post thouroughly I clearly stated that I knew it was not up to CD to make breeders reply, I just thought they would like to know that none of their chihuahua breders reply.................ok Liberty.

Once again the written word i misunderstood
- By liberty Date 24.11.03 00:10 UTC
Clare, I'm only saying Admin cannot make breeders reply to any emails they receive, I wished you luck in your search; but I do feel you are over-reacting to my post, no offense was intended...................ok clare.
- By Dill [gb] Date 24.11.03 00:28 UTC
clare,
Try this link, they should be able to help you find breeders
http://www.the-british-chihuahua-club.org.uk/main.htm

It may be that the Trolls who have been abusing these boards have also been abusing the breeders list and they are now wary of contact by e-mail ~ just a thought ;)
- By claresanders [gb] Date 24.11.03 00:35 UTC
Hi

Thanks alot dill for the link I will check it out, you are probably right we do get alot of trolls on here.

Liberty - if you read my post you would once again see as I suggested you look at in my previous post that in no shape or form did I imply for a second that I thought CD admin had control over making the breeders reply to emails, so you have ended up arguing a point that I did not even make.

people dont read the post properly before replying.

can i just make one thing clear I DO NOT EXPECT CHAMP DOG TO MAKE BREEDERS REPLY TO EMAILS

ok, thanks to most pople as the majority seem to also agree and have found this issue a problem.
- By jolanta30 [gb] Date 24.11.03 00:52 UTC
I too have sent e-mails to several breeders about 3/4 weeks ago and have as yet had no reply from anyone. I am not in a desperate state as yet, as my situation with a house move and extended travel period in December make it a very unsettling (spelling?) time to introduce any puppy into our house hold (unsettling for the puppy that is). I did mention this in all e-mails sent out, but it still would have been nice to have had some contact even a "can't help you" would have been nicer than nothing.
Guess I'll just be Nigel No Mates!!!
:-( :-( :-(
- By claresanders [gb] Date 24.11.03 00:55 UTC
lol............It is just so annoying you would think we were wanting the dogs for free, not paying 600 pound and traveling 100 miles to collect them, oh well it must just not be meant to be at the moment for us, what breed are you after ?
- By jolanta30 [gb] Date 24.11.03 01:11 UTC
Well after the Discover Dogs expo in London I am right confused. Thought I'd made up my mind between a Bichon frise and a Miniature poodle - BUT then I saw a Bedlington Terrier there and it was the most lovely dog ever. So I guess now I'll do some more research.

PS: I have thought that I may leave it in fate's hands ie: just make contact with a long list of breeders and see who contacts me first, then take it from there.
- By claresanders [gb] Date 24.11.03 01:17 UTC
That sounds like a great idea, all the best with your search, I hope you find what you are looking for
- By tcarlaidh Date 24.11.03 08:52 UTC
As a breeder on Champdogs I receive many e-mails people looking for pups and I do try to reply but e-mails are very inpersonal and could be coming from anyone and beleive me they do.
In my mind if people are wanting a pup and care about where they get one from as much as I care about where my pups go then they will make the effort to telephone me in person. Then I can decide whether I think this is a suitable person to have a pup and they can also decide whether I am a reputable breeder to get their lifelong companion from. I still do not consider a puppy booked until I meet the prospective people in person. For myself and many friends the telephone connection is the first step not e-mails, so if you are genuinely looking for a pup telephone these breeders, you will get a response then.
My regards, Debbie.
- By JaneS (Moderator) Date 24.11.03 09:55 UTC
Same here - sometimes I am inundated with puppy enquiries via email [$ I try to reply to most but I cannot sit at my computer all day answering emails :-) I will always respond to the nice friendly emails that tell me a little about the enquirer & why they are looking for a puppy but I no longer reply to the one sentence messages which just say "Have you got any puppies & how much are they?", no please or thank you & more often than not, they are not even signed so I've no idea who the enquirer is!! Not suggesting for one minute the original poster of this thread sent emails like the latter - its just a general observation why some enquirers won't receive a reply from me ])
- By tcarlaidh Date 24.11.03 11:08 UTC
Same here :) I can receive upto 10 e-mails a day and I do my best to answer them but likewise I don't reply to the 'have you got any pups, how much are they' I used to but these people never returned my e-mails anyway.
As JaneS, I like to receive a little information about the person contacting me by e-mail and I always reply to them and like Dizzy if I can not help them myself I try to put them in touch with someone who can.
p.s. I am a nice person ;)
What is a Troll?? heard that used a few times on here.
- By Melodysk [gb] Date 24.11.03 11:12 UTC
A troll or WUM (Wind up merchant) is an internet term for someone who poses a question simply to inflame others

HTH

Melody :)
- By MoneygallJRTs [ie] Date 24.11.03 12:56 UTC
I do agree with you on the 'personal touch' but I am in the situation where i don't have a phone at home at the moment. I am also in Ireland. I can get access to the internet maybe only 3-4 times a week, and i don't expect anyone interested in my puppies to phone me on my mobile, especially when most enquiries come from the UK.
I do attempt to reply to all email inquiries, but not always immediately. i feel initial email enquiries can help me weed out the 'just curious' types, and then the firmer enquiries can be moved to the phone.
However, although it may take a few days, I DO always reply to my emails....

Caroline
- By Dessie [gb] Date 24.11.03 09:03 UTC
Hi Clare

Have a look at The British Chihuahua Clubthey should be able to point you in the right direction.

HTH

Dessie :D :D
- By Melodysk [gb] Date 24.11.03 09:33 UTC
Hello Clare ..I know that a lot of breeders prefer a letter or a telephone call as an initial contact , maybe you could try that rather than email?

Melody :)
- By archer [gb] Date 24.11.03 10:02 UTC
several litters advertised on www.pedigreedogs.co.uk
Archer
- By claresanders [gb] Date 24.11.03 10:24 UTC
If they rather have a letter or telephone conversation then why would they bother to put there emails especially if they do not intend to reply, why not "please contact me on such and such a number" I have no problem ringing and I can see that alot of the time you will get hoax contacts as there are many saddos but all I have asked is if they have any litters due, a simple yes or no is sufficent or yes and please contact me on this number.

thanks for the advice though
- By Jane [gb] Date 24.11.03 10:34 UTC
I think it is bad manners not to reply to emails from people wanting information regarding pups. Personaly the 1st point is email then phone call, there is no point pestering people with phone calls if they can not help, so the best way is to send the email to all the breeders in that breed and see who replies and who can help. Like Dizzy has said she replys to each email and if she can not help she will put people on to other breeders that may be able to help. That is how it should be, not just to ignore a email. IMHO

Clair keeping trying there will be nice breeders out there that will be willing to help you in your find.
- By jolanta30 [gb] Date 24.11.03 10:55 UTC
I can concure that I did contact one breeder via phone call, and all I felt at the end of that call was that I was just a nuisance to her. So hence after that, I sent e-mails so as not to annoy anyone. I did give info about my family and anything else that might have been helpful for a breeder to know that I am truely sincere in my wishes to own a beautiful K9 friend.

PS: my post with Info is - Hello all you dog lovers.

Still trying...
ME
:-)
- By claresanders [gb] Date 24.11.03 11:01 UTC
Thankyou I totally agree, I would not want people phoning me at all hours if I were a breeder, I would rather they all email first, otherwise you will be anwering the phone all day, or would you breeders out there rather we rang ?
- By tcarlaidh Date 24.11.03 11:14 UTC
I do prefer people to telephone but if you think it best to e-mail give lots of info about yourself.
I hope that you find your puppy. :)
- By sweep Date 24.11.03 11:24 UTC
Whilst I do have the e-mail address as first point of contact this is always followed by a Phone call. I always try to reply too to any Puppy enquiry whether we have a litter or not. But may be if the Breeder were busy and therefore didn't read your e-mail until maybe a week after it was sent they may think it was too late to reply or perhaps you might be no longer interested. I would give them another chance, if no joy again, then give them a ring. JMO:)

I do hope that you find your puppy.

Sweep :)
- By claresanders [gb] Date 24.11.03 12:31 UTC
I would rather ring the breeder but you dont know if they would rather you email, I do put in lots of info, thankyou very much for the advice
- By Lokis mum [gb] Date 24.11.03 11:19 UTC
Personally, I try to respond to all emails the same day, but it isn't always possible.
- By claresanders [gb] Date 24.11.03 12:33 UTC
oh i totally agree I wasnt expecting them to reply right away but after 3 weeks you would think someone would.

thanks
- By G30ff [gb] Date 24.11.03 13:43 UTC
its been quite interesting reading comments about emails & breeders. Since I joined Champdogs a few weeks ago I have had over thirty emails asking about puppies, I have replied to every email, & asked the enquirer to ring me, guess how many replies I've had......

Geoff:)
- By Brainless [gb] Date 24.11.03 12:40 UTC
I agree entirely. Being fairly new to computers the first contacts (being a relavtively unusual breed the contacts are not numerous) by email I was unsure how to de3al with.

what I did in the end was ask for a little more about the family and what thye new about the breed, and what made them think one would suit them, and then ask them to phone for a further chat.

If I can't help then I ask them to contact our breed club, or put them onto a breeder who I know can help.

I have never ignored an email. I have had one or two oif the sort that I would never consider, and have passed them onto our breed club so other people can be wary!
- By claresanders [gb] Date 24.11.03 12:44 UTC
thankyou, I think what you do shows also that you are a responsible breeder, the people who just ignore us seem to give themselvs a bad reputation and I would conider not going to them in the future and also not reccommending them to friends.
- By Anwen [gb] Date 24.11.03 13:31 UTC
I'm innocent!!! I always answer my emails but I know that at least one of the people listed in Champdogs in my breed has died. Maybe something should be done to keep the list up to date. Or maybe there could be a sort of "last updated" column/field. whatever?
I do object to telephone messages which just say "I'm enquirying about ???? breed. Ring me back on (phone no.) I've no idea who they are are where they are, so I don't answer. if they're interested they'll ring back.
- By coleen [gb] Date 24.11.03 13:44 UTC
Not from a breeder's point of view - but from Rescue, and not aimed at anyone who has posted to this thread, may I say that I do NOT
reply to anyone who does not leave an address and a landline phone. I get stacks of emails from people looking to adopt and many of them are very rude and not in any way would I take the time to reply to these people. For all of those people who set the email out correctly, (which shows they have taken the time and thought) I reply. Even from these people, 90% I never hear from again. So in answer to the question, answering emails can take up a lot of time. I think some people see emails as a way of bashing off quick letters, and then many forget they have even sent them. It is not unusual to get an email which runs along the lines of... "I am looking for a dog, young as possible. Can you help. What do you charge, as we cannot afford a lot" Often mispelt.

I think emails are great, but only as an initial contact . I do know many people though who have an email address and never ever use it. By the time they check their emails they are well and truly passed there sell by date.

I think it is still best to contact people by phone when looking for a puppy or a rescue. That way you can ask more questions and get a 'feel' as to what that person is like. It is very hard to get a real conversation going via email from someone you do not know. You can always ask them then, why they did not respond to your emails.

Coleen

- By Alexanders [gb] Date 24.11.03 14:22 UTC
Why put an email address on a board if you do not use it? I disagree that anyone has more time to answer phone calls than emails. Telephone calls can come any time of the day, with an email, you can choose when you answer them. When I was looking for my puppy, I spent HOURS on the phone to breeders. In my breed, whether puppies were available or not, the breeders (and me) loved to talk about them, so it was very time consuming. You can always send out a standard reply to many email addresses (maybe once a week) requesting that anyone who is interested in your puppies proceed to telephone you. Or that you have no puppies. It is just plain rudeness not to reply to an email (on a par in my mind to a lady who ran a cat rescue who told me in a very rude way to "ring back in the morning as it was too late to be ringing people now" - I rang her at 8.45pm one evening! Politeness costs nothing, everyone is busy, and if you really want good homes for your puppies then you want as many people to choose from as possible.

Fiona and Saffy
- By tanni [gb] Date 24.11.03 14:32 UTC
i answer all e mails and tell the person to feel free and e mail me again if they have no luck. the ones that trouble to call me i try to help with show dates ect where they might meet a breeder who has pups. i have even arranged to meet one couple at a show and introduce them to other breeders.
- By claresanders [gb] Date 24.11.03 14:33 UTC
Here Here :) its not too much too ask is it.
- By claresanders [gb] Date 24.11.03 14:36 UTC
I must edit my original post out of the 20 emails I sent 3 weeks ago, today I recieved a reply which read "No puppies" - short , no name or introduction like hi, but low and behold I will not hold that against them because all in all it is a reply ;)
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