i have a bitch and male cavalier king charles dogs ,my bitch wont accept my male dog when she is in season,she has just came in to season and i would like her to have a litter,can anyone give me advice for my bitch to accept my male dog,would she prefer another dog etc.

hi sophie.........you need to run progesterone tests to see when the correct time to breed is..if nothing else you could do an a.i. with your male

I think the poster needs a little more basic information than that Kelly.

Sophie - I would talk to your bitches breeder in the first instance. It would then be a good idea to get a copy of the Book of the Bitch. Its absolutely invaluable with regards to timings of seasons etc. Finally, if you are dead set on having a litter, might be a good idea to use an experienced stud on your maiden bitch - he will know when the time is right ;)

gee thats your opinion...i didn't realize i was obligated to appease you........

Yes, its my opinion and no, you're not obligated to appease me, but thanks for asking :)

hi kelly can you tell me what an a.i is and where can you buy the progestrone tests thanks.

AI is artificial insemination... a bit extreme for a novice breeder to get involved with IMO. Far better to check if you are doing everything right first, and get your girl checked at the vet, and possibly your boy ;) Personally though, I'd use an experienced stud for the first time - maiden dog and maiden bitch - not always a good idea :)

Also the British Kennel club will not register puppies born by Artificial Insemination, unless it is from Imported semen (of a dog that has sired naturally), and then only on prior application to a bitch that has already been bred from naturally.

Have to correct you there...

The bitch doesn't need to have had a litter naturally, now. AI litter in Munsters born in the UK this April, the dam was a maiden bitch and my friend has got permission too, also a maiden bitch.

......... and there was a Dobe bitch recently who produced an AI litter to a UK Champion male who died a few years ago

"Times .......they are a'changinging"

What about people who are breeding from dead dog's frozen semen or castrated dogs frozen semen? Because litters are being born to these dogs and being registered by the Kennel Club and being shown?

hi sophie...a.i. is artificial insemination....you collect the semen and inseminate the female...i breed all mine that way even though the studs are experienced champions....alot of them do not natural breed for varios reasons.....any vet who has lab services should be able to submit a blood test to a lab for analysis

a.i extreme...c'mon...were not talking brain surguey

Are you in the UK? I believe its not accepted by the KC to breed via AI without prior permission - although I could be wrong.

well your the expert chloe......

no no, i bow to your superior knowledge regarding AI in the UK kelly.

hi yes im in the uk,

Don't even consider AI, Sophie. If your bitch is a maiden, your best bet is to use an experienced stud dog (who, like your bitch, has had all the relevant health checks, and is a good enough example of the breed to use - the search for a suitable mate can take some time).

Don't forget, Kelly,that if the poster is in the UK, she wouldn't be able to register the pups if she used AI(using her own dog,or any other UK resident dog) so what would be the point?

hi jeanie.....the k.c.it says it will consider any request for a.i.??

But will only grant permission for the use of semen from dogs living overseas, that have also sired litters naturally...

strange...they are so behind the rest of the world.....we are having litters by dogs that died twenty years ago...plus you can actually have a litter with two different sires...fascinating stuff

Behind the rest of the world - by wanting to ensure that dogs can still breed naturally?
Well - give me being backward any day then! :) Janet

Yep me too. I don't call it fascinating, I call it unethical.

I couldn't agree more,Janet. After all, AI is completely and utterly forbidden in the thoroughbred horse-racing world. If it won't breed naturally, then it shouldn't be bred at all.

Kelly, see here for AI Information (especially Note 4b.)

thanks jeanie...

Your post made me very uncomfortable Kelly...
Litters by a dog who died 20 years ago?
Apart from the fact that I want to see the sire of my puppies 'in the flesh', what if he carried a hereditary problem, which was not known about 20 years ago, which could be passed on in his semen?
And litters by 2 different sires?
That smacks of designer puppies to me...
If a dog and bitch are not able to breed 'naturally', what else may they not be capable of doing naturally in generations to come?
What next, cloning?
Liz

Got a bit alarmist has it not?

If you have a dog, say living in Australia or New Zealand, who is siring consistently good stock, has fresh bloodlines you feel the breed could benefit from, you would rather stick a bitch on a plane for a 24 hour journey, 1 month of quarantine and then back again for 24 hours to whelp in this country.....rather than importing frozen semen and having her artificially inseminated by an experienced vet here.

To be fair - thats a little bit different from using a dog thats been dead 20 years or having a litter sired by different males?

Why would anyone want a litter sired by 2 different males? I cannot for the life of me think of one good reason. As for it being fascinating...

I believe there are times when AI is a very acceptable way to produce a litter. I certainly wouldn`t dismiss it if say I thought there was a good enough dog in the States or UK or anywhere else where the travelling would be something I wouldn`t put my bitch thru. I also would like to think that breeders elsewhere in the world would be as open minded about it as well. After all, there are some super dogs with great genes through out the world & if it would better the breed to have a mating between them then AI surely has a place in the scheme of things :)

Christine, Spain.

In the 1970's there was a GSD litter born by AI in semination , but the male did have other naturally conceived litter & it was all done with prior permission from the KC it was due to an accident that happened to the Ch male that meant he could not mate a bitch I don't know the breeding details but it was one of the Late Mildred Sames's dogs because she told me personally

I think what most people are objecting to is the attitude "Oh well, if they don't mate naturally you can always AI them". If you've got dog and bitch there, and they won't mate, then that mating is not to be. Perhaps the dogs know better than we do! If people persist in perpetuation genes from animals with poor libido, the breed is on the slippery slope to extinction.
:)

But if the dog that had died 20 years ago had been siring good stock then, why not have the opportunity to bring his lines to the forefront again? There is a dog in my breed who was a German import born in 1981 and I would give my eye teeth to use him over Mia had frozen semen been available from him. He sired several Sh.Ch.'s and Ch.'s and in turn his son's & grandsons have been top sires too.

Because to me, its just not ethical. Sorry, its just they way I feel. How about using 2 sires for one litter? I can't see one good reason for it.

I would be concerned that the quality of the sperm would deteriorate after all this time - I'm sure the freezing techniques have improved over the last 20 years, and what was 'state of the art' back then would be considered hopelessly outdated now.

What research has been done to prove that all the sperm would still be as viable as it was when it was stored?

That is exactly the sort of situation that *is* allowed by the KC! That is quite different from recommending AI to someone because the dog won't mate the bitch!

If a dog is unable to mate naturally why potentially perpetuate that problem by breeding on from it?
Janet