Hi
I have a 2 1/2 year old bitch which was mated  a week ago
2 days after mating there was a brown smelly discharge,
She was taken to vets and was scaned,there was no sign of Pyametra there,
her drinking is normal,eating more than usual,not sure wether she is lethargic or just a bit down as she usualy is when in season,no vomiting, not urinating excessively,she has had a injection and a course of antibiotics,also had a blood test.
Vet said it could be too early to show wether its Pyometra or not,hopefully its not,she also said thats its a bit early for in her season to develop  Pyometra,
and is not showing any physical signs apart from the discharge,and also could be a different infection,such as Vaginits.
I am so worried and are not going back to vets untill monday for her to be scanned again and to check her discharge again.
Is there anybody out there who has more info on this ilness apart from the fact that it can be quite fatal,e.g what is the cause.
Also has anyone else gone through a similar situation?
What if its a std,where do I stand with the stud dog owners?since it would be there fault.
Waiting in anticipation for any replies since its seems like a long time before I see the vet again.
Alex

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alex
when a bitch is mated she is in season for her to concieve.After mating they still bleed a little but it is very light in colour almost like rusty/straw colour,thats what it sounds like to me (with your girl),as my bitch had this for about 1wk after mating,i don't understand why your vet hasn't told you that,and personally i think you'll be wasting you money going backwards and forwards to the vets (this will also stress her out),its far to early for pyo,there's no signs of illness for anything else
i would just wait a little longer and then if your still worried go to your vets :)
hope everything works out keep us updated
vicky :)
p.s just keep her quite and stress free and hope that she's caught :)

My friend's bitch died of Pyometra just two weeks after being mated!

John

Thanks for that Vicky,kinda put my mind at rest now,I know bitches do carry on bleeding but surely didn't think they would have this kind of discharge.
One good sign this evening,I have dabbed her a few times and no sign at all of discharge,so maybe its started to clear.
I am wondering if the course of antibiotics are still a good idea though since I have read that they can affect the growth of the puppies,having said that since the injection, her discharge has reduced rapidly to nothing today,so maybe its best to keep on the safe side.
Again thanks and will keeep you updated

My dog also had very brown discharge after mating. It wasn't smelly though,... just the normal icky odor of female in heat. It cleared up into a normal clear discharge. As for the antibiotics, it depends on what kind they are. Daisy had to have antibiotics 2 weeks after mating because she was injured. My vet gave her Clavamox, as it was the safest he felt for her possible pregnancy. She's now over 7 weeks along and doing fine. :) (except for trying to explode!)

Synulux is also a safe antibiotic. My girl had them for an infection straight after whelping, and I know someone who's in whelp bitch had them and had a perfectly normal whelping with all puppies fit and healthy.

I dont understand why your vet did not tell you that its normal to get a brown discharge after mating. Also that you can get it two weeks after mating. Synulox will not hurt the bitch as a lot of bitches are given this to stop infections etc.
I had a bitch once that got a dark brown discharge around 2-3 weeks after mating, the vet told me that sometimes they abort one or two if they are carrying too many or deformed. I am not an expert so dont know.
Some makes of antibiotics though can halm the puppies so the vet should of given you the correct ones for the job. Synulox is fine and often give to bitches that have recurrent strep infections at season. Its also thought that if the bitch has this at mating it can stop fading puppy syndrome. So it wont hurt the bitch.
Why did you think the stud dog gave your bitch this?
It can be the other way around. Sometimes infections are carried by the bitch and you cant see them with the eye. I own a stud dog and insist that all bitches are smeared just prior or with in a day of coming into season. If any bitch has an infection they are given antibiotics. Also my dog is given antibiotics after a mating to make sure he does not catch anything. Regular tests can all be part of owning a healthy stud dog.
Good luck with your puppies.
Nutkin

Since my last post I have noticed a tiny bit of clear discharge,so I presume you are right about it being a bit rare but a normal thing to happen.
What I said:It would be the stud owners fault if it was a std,is what I was obviously impliying without thinking that it works both ways which you mentioned,but I presumed it would be the stud since my bitch didnt have this discharge until she was mated with this dog.
Synulox is what she was prescribed so at least that was right.
Anyway as long as my girl is ok I am happy, if the mating took then thats a bonus.
I done loads of research on the breed,breeding and lines and spoke to many breeders prior to mating but obviously there a lot of things that most of us don't know, that arent covered by the books especialy health issues,so its a good thing we have this site and the experienced breeders here to give us valuable advice and put our minds at rest or guide us in the right direction when needed.
Thanks again and all advice is apreciated.
Alex

i dont know anything about breeding dogs, but isn't it wrong to just give your dog antibiotics after mating just incase ? u shouldn't overuse antibiotics as u can get used to them

well that's what it's like in humans anyway

Hi
Just caught up on your post my girl had this after 2 or 3 days of mating her and I can of hoped it was a good sign as the very first time she was mated she had it too and I took her to the vets as it stunk awful and I recall the vet smelling her dew drop and I thought what a job.
But I will tell you pyometra doesnt smell bad like you think it should it smells like puppies just having been born.
Anyway I think my bitch has caught she looks very promising but will take het to the vets just to make sure and I would think your bitch is pregnant as well. Good luck

I just had to say... "Dew Drop", I love it! I always struggle for a nice sounding word for Daisy's privates, and always resulted to "stuff", but I love "dew drop"! That sound so much nicer that the technical words, lol!

Comes from having young ears about many moons ago but he is 14 now so he probably has more names for it than I do....LOL

Had a swab test result today and aparantly she had Pasteurella which from the reading bellow indicates the possibility of it being a normal regular thing and possibly cause no harm when left untreated,however with Synulox my bitch got rid of the brown discharge within 2 days,possibly less,so in my opinion if your bitch has been mated and has this discharge soon after it would be advisable to put her on a course of Synulox to be on the safe side by possibly preventing it going further.

Pasteurella multocida, a bacteria, is a normal inhabitant of the
reproductive tract of both male and female dogs, based on studies done by
Drs. Bjurstrom and Linde-Forsberg of the Swedish University. On the other
hand, some veterinarians do believe that pasteurellosis can cause problems
with fertility. If this seems to be the case, the Swedish doctors also
studied the effect of antibiotic therapy on bacterial flora and were able
to demonstrate that a single dose of antibiotics to which the bacteria are
susceptible will usually result in nearly complete clearance of the
"infection". In another study of chronic vaginitis reported by Dr. Johnson
in the Vet Clinics of North America it is important to rule out urinary
tract infections and anatomical problems of the vagina or reproductive
tract because these problems often enable the chronic infection noted. To
sum up, a culture of the reproductive tract that shows Pasteurella sp.
bacteria in an otherwise normal dog should probably be ignored. If signs of
reproductive tract infection, such as vaginal discharge, are present, it is
important to look for urinary tract infections and anatomical abnormalities
in the reproductive tract before attempting treatment for the pasteurellosis.

My advice after this experience is to have your bitch swabed before mating or giving your dog some safe antibiotics prior to mating.

Hello
I had some experience with Pasteurella which I am afraid you wont like. Someone came to my stud dog and had been smeared. They were shown to have Pasteurella. They were given anti-biotics and said that it was ok to come to my dog. They mated twice, then my dog had antibiotics and a month later smeared to check he was ok. Which he was. The bitch seemed to be in pup, I visited her and she started to get quite large. Her vet also checked her over saying he thought she was in pup but to be on the safe side an ultra sound would be needed. The owner decided to wait a bit longer. Anyway all of a sudden the pregnancy did not progress. I wondered if it was just a phantom after all.
The vet looked over the bitch did some tests and it was said she had lost what pups she had had. Well before the next season it was suggested another smear. We said they could come for a mating free although the bitch had been in pup. However the bitch was shown to have this pasterella again. So she was not mated, and the vet said to clear this right up she would need anti-biotics. So again she was treated, and checked. Still she had it. So more anti-biotics. So checked again to show she still had it. So the vet had the bitch in and washed her insides out. Given a strong dose of anti-biotics. So a year later she came to be mated again supposed to be clear of Pasteurella. I did not charge the couple anything and it was a free return mating. The bitch was mated and produced again no puppies. So the couple had the bitch spayed. I add the dog was fertile as he mated two other bitches between time who had a healthy 10 puppies and 7 puppies.
I had my dog checked again and smeared and he was clear of anything. So he did not catch anything. Now looking back I was daft to allow any matings as I could of given my dog something that was difficult to clear up.
My vet told me Pasterella is common in a lot of animals, and in cats wee especially. It can be passed on from dog to dog with mating so its best to clear it up.
So thats my storey of Pasterella. I dont know any more than that only its common, but if levels get to a certain amount the vets do say its linking with fading puppy syndrome and absorbtion of pups.
Nutkin

hello, Just reading these posts with interest, my bitch was mated 6-8 days ago, her discharge carried on for a few days after as the normal season stuff, then cleared down to almost nothing, she now has a milky white discharge, not a lot, just the odd spotting/drips.
She seems 100 percent, she's her old self, and seems to be 'sparkling' if you know what i mean. :-)

I'm concious of watching out for any change in her, should i be concerned, we are a first timer, so you have to bear with me, i'm like a sponge! collecting information/asking questions etc! - Is it worth speaking to my Vet about this? Is this kind of discharge nothing to worry about.

J

i would say its nothing to worry about but if you are worried then take to the vets just to put your mind at ease.
vicky :)

Hi Boxer owner
From what I gather it is aproximatly the 35th day when they should get white or opaque mucus discharge from what they call here the pup dew part(lol),which can be a good sign of pregnancy,in your case it does seem a bit early,but from other similar topics on this site regarding discharge there seems to be a few who's bitch has been through the same situation which turned out to be ok and carried on on having pups,If your bitches discharge turns to blood stained or coloured then I would definatly advise you to consult your vet.
In your case I would still advise you to give your vet a call and give him(her) exact details because every bitches case could be different,and whichever the case is yours I am sure it is worth paying for your bitches sake and your hopefully peace of mind,since you have a good few weeks on your hand like me before you will realy know the outcome.

Hi again
Just thought I would update those who where involved in this topic or interested of the outcome.
Today I took my bitch to be checked by the vet and he said he is pretty confident that she has at least 3 pups that he can feel,On thursday she will be scanned to confirm that and to see if there are any more.
Lets just hope all goes well.
Can't say I am not happy though lol,Me and my misses couldnt stop smiling at the vets.

Alex,

Glad to hear everything is okay.  I put a post today in the Health section with exactly the same problem.  My bitch was mated 3 weeks ago and today she had a blood stained mucus discharge.  I have phoned my vet and she is going down to th vets tomorrow morning to be checked out.

I hope my bitch is okay too.

Let you know how she does.

Hi again
I am back to announce the arrival of our five Pups which were born early ours of Sunday Morning,
We had no trouble at all apart from not sleeping.
Thanks again for all your advice.
I Have one last question,
Is it worth it(Important)to take the mother for a checkup?
I dont realy like the idea of leaving pups behind,
Mother will be very stressed too.

Hi yes its worth getting the bitch checked over just to make sure shes ok. The vet usually gives her an injection to help clear the uterus out making sure there is nothing retained to set of an infection.Will your vet not do a house call so the pups can be checked at the same time? Gillian