Hi

Have my new puppy Caleb, he is very easy going and enjoys company, he is eating well and playing and going to toilet on command, my only prob as he is an eight week pup he crys when you put him in crate at night as young pups do, I would live him to cry it out and settle but our next door neighbour who I had talked to prior to his arrival ref the fact that he would cry.

The first night he wined for about 30 mins than next door were rapping on the wall, so I had to hold him till he went to sleep and then he went into crate and slept till morning. Last night he cried again, and I tried to leave him to settle, hotwater bottle wrapped up, blanket, toys, light left on. After 15 mins neighbour is bangbang bang on the wall so I had to go and bring him up to our spare room and hold him till he went to sleep. This is really not the way I wanted to do this, he has got to get used to crate, as when I go back to work he will only be left for 1 hr 30 mins then the dog sitter comes in.

He went to the vet today and was an angel and the vet said what a super pup he was, not a murmer.

Any suggestions practical or otherwise

BB

This new neighbour is doing my head in. Apart from being unable to live him to cry he is great. I have been popping out 5 - 10 mins at a time to leave him in his crate to acustom him to it.

I would suggest a peace offering, perhaps a box of chocolates for your neighbour?
You need to get the message across that the crying will happen while the pup settles in, but if you keep going down to the pup when your neighbour bangs on the wall, then this will just delay the whole process as the pup is getting the attention it wants. Unless they are toataly unreasonable, once you explain, they will probably understand. Good luck!

Do you have to leave him to cry it out??? Most pups settle quicker if they aren't too far from their humans to start with, so can you take his crate into your bedroom for a few days/couple of weeks? This really needn't 'set a precedent' as you can then teach him to settle in his crate in other places in the house too......

Hi

Thanks for suggestions so far.

Have already spoken with neigbour and did warn her in advance, also sent round a letter of apology for any noise. She looks at our house frosty eyed when she goes out. Might send hubby round tonight to talk to her again.. Have tried keeping him in his crate in the bedroom, but still cries. Will have to persevere.

I have to keep the peace as neighbour in the past has been noise intolerent. I dont play music in the house for the same reasons.

Blimey are your walls made of paper or something ? I cant believe this woman :(
Especially as you have apologised verbally and by letter .
Some people !!!
Lel

I wouldn't stand for the neighbours lack of understanding. You have made all the right moves and if she is so intolerant then I would seriously forget about her and carry on as you want to ! You have as much right to live there as she has and a reasonable amount of noise every so often is acceptable and there is nothing she can do about it!

Are you sure she isn't there with a glass to the wall all the time ?

We had one that sounded very much like your neighbour and we bent over backwards but when she finally complained that she could hear the dogs claws on the dining room floor through the walls I just had enough !
We tried talking, letters and getting neighbours involved, we even got the builders of the houses out to check all the walls etc but there was absolutely nothing wrong. We had verbal abuse at the door every so often so we used to stand and listen, laugh then ask if they had finished then slammed the door in their faces !! They got the hint and moved soon afterwards ! We now have lovely neighbours who say hello and smile and actualy have conversations with us

Hi

Some people are very sensitive to this kind of thing - and when they don't choose to have dogs themselves they can be very intolerant to the noises of others. I would do everything possible not to let your puppy make a noise, and not to cry it out (I personally don't like that method anyway). Some people just don't like dogs and you really don't want to fall out with your neighbour about it this early on. I wouldn't be happy with a pup crying at all if I had to get up the next day ;)

JMO mind :)

I totally get what you are saying here but it works both ways ! When you move into a house that is a semi you have got to expect some level of noise. If you are very noise intolerant then you should move to a detached property !

It is a difficult situation trying to please your neighbours but when it affects your life that you have to tiptoe around your own home then it is affecting you which to me is slighty unfair !!

Sorry it is a subject close to my heart having to live next to idiots that made our life a misery after we tried to bend over backwards!

Always best though to try the bending over but when it starts to get painful for you then it is time to rethink your stratergy ! :)

Lucy

I agree :) its a compromise....

I can't stand the sound of anythign crying - I'm a terrible softy, babies, puppies, dogs... whereas I can cope with music, television etc because I can just switch off. I agree, no-one should have to tip-toe around their own home.

I think you need to explain (if you haven't done already) that; by them banging on the walls will just make the dog cry even more, so they are not actually helping themselves. Would they do the same if it was a new born baby?

Now to be a bit catty (oh no not on a doggy board! ;-)) but by the sounds of it your neighbour should move somewhere where they have no neighbours. Not being able to even play music in your own home is ridiculous, and as for the poor ol' pup trying to get used to bedtime...they must be quite insensitive as they just need to be patient for a couple days/weeks and it will be fine.

I hope you can sort this out without too much stress! Good Luck!

Have you tried putting some old clothing that you have worn into his bed. Dogs have a keen sense of smell and it may just settle him if he's got his new "mum's" reassuring smell to fall asleep with.

Tell your neighbour she's upsetting the pup and making him worse!

Kath.

I doubt theres much the neighbour could do anyway - even if she complained to the relevant authority are they going to take a new puppys cries seriously ? They cant monitor it on a sound detector can they ?

Also just wanted to add <<<Would they do the same if it was a new born baby?>> We actually had a next door neighbour who DID bang on the wall. :( :(
lel

I have found intitial crate training works much better when the pup can see you. Our BC was crated next to the bed and within two days the crying stopped.

Hi everyone

Thanks again for all the suggestions, will try a few out tonight and see if my boy settles any easier.

He has been out and about today, went to petsmart and carried him and he did not wriggle just admired the view, he is super laid back, but he does have a thing for shoes and will run off when you leave a pair unguarded....

Will see if we have a better night

BB

Give your puppy an old t-shirt with your smell on it - it worked for my pup, didn't hear a peep out of him after I gave him t-shirt.

Do you no when your neighbours have a couple of days off work (if they work) if so let them no that is when you are going to let your puppy cry at night to get use to the kennel and it may take a few days. Or when you no they are going out put the puppy in the kennel for awhile. Have you tried putting a blanket over the kennel, I found this worked well with one of mine.

ttfn :)

Hi it sounds to me as if you have really tried everything with your n-bours. Perhaps now is the time to think to hell with them. Try to ignore them when they are being awkward but also be over polite whenever you see them. ''Good morning, lovely day isn't it. Just the type of day to get out for a walk with the dog, fancy coming!''.

Hi All

Have not seen intolerent neighbour since her banging on wall. Caleb slept through last night without a whimper but prefers to be with me than sleep in the travel crate, did put him in it but he created merry hell, when he gets a bit bigger once he is alseep I will transfer him into crate. Will win in the end.

He onlt got up once at 3.00 am for wee then went back to sleep till 7am.

Our other neighbour, young man other side to intolerent one came on knocked on the door after I pushed a note through apologising for noise. He said no probs and he totally understood and was not bothered....

Nowt so queer as folk I guess

you could try put a blanket over the crate to cover the openings. My rat terrier used to cry but we found that when we made the crate dark, she would stop!
hope you find a solution!!! good luck!

Handling neighbours can be fraught with difficulties for us dog owners !!!

As someone said, what if you had a crying baby? I suppose THAT would be OK :rolleyes: Maybe say this next time and point out their lack of tolerance.

I too have had neighbours in the past (not now thank goodness) who were grumpy and complaining no matter how polite i was nor how well behaved my dogs were. I learnt sadly from that, that sometimes you have to be firmer and just say "sorry but this is how it is for the time being." Lump it

YOu are obviously normally very considerate so you have nothing to be ashamed of.

2 suggestions - as Digger said, and was it Chloe, many people dont leave pups to cry now. I strted my pup in the bedroom as this gives confidence and slowly move them down stairs and then sleep down stairs for a few days ..... it worked very well and my pup never cried once :) nor did i make a rod for my own back ;)

Also make the crate wonderful andpop her in there every so often for 2 minutes and build it up, but give her wonderful chews and let her associate the crate with being a den.

Good luck!

Lindsay

Hi everyone

Thanks for all the suggestions, Next door is noise intolerent with a lot of things, not just the dog. When my husband snores sometimes she will rap on the wall then and has complained before about my 10 yr old going up and down the stairs. Last night as pup was playing outside she came outside with her frosty look and said she was feeling ill with all the noise esp me going in and out the back door and banging in. I said I had to go in and out the garden to let dog in and out and I said I would try to be as quiet at possible, she also said she was pleased that the dog did not cry at night now but that he had cried a little bit when the doggy sitter lady had left yesterday afternoon. I must admit LOL I thought of the posting that someone had put asking whether she stood with a glass to the wall listening..... I can imagine her doing it.

I think the prob is not really the dog but the fact this lady is at home all day (retired) has nothing else better to do than be nosy and moan about everything.

On the other side of us up to three months ago we did have real neighbours from hell, disco music at 2 in the morning, screaming kids, revving cars, arguments... and the old lady I think thought at one time that we were making all the noise.

Its not worth arguing with this lady she is just the way she is. I'd rather keep the peace and get on with enjoying my life and new puppy.
He is sooo good , he slept all last night from 11-7 without waking up, I have him on his blankie on the end of my (Low pull out) bed and he is fine.

Hi there
some people have nothing better to do with their time than to complain. Excuse my expression, but STUFF THEM !!!
You've done everything to avoid hostilities with your neighbours, and it's not worked, so no-one can accuse you of not trying.
It seems quite obvious that she's not going to become friendly with you, and will complain about anything, so next time she starts, if I were you, I'd tell her to sod off, then just blank her.
Can't be doing with miserable individuals....there's no need for it. Being friendly is the best way usually, but if you let them think they can walk all over you, or intimidate you, you've have it.
And that's from my experience with a miserable old git in my previous house. A right old busy body, and the more I tried to be pleasant with him, the more irate and narked he got. I told him to sod off, and he never spoke to me again......which pleased me immensely. :)
Your pup sounds fab, and you just enjoy him. :) :)

Steph, had to post and say you are brilliant. Person after my own heart.

lol Emma :D :D.......sometimes it's the only way.

We have the same problem, apparently the noise from our cement mixer killed their rabbit not long ago. And now Darcys sqeaker toy is driving them mad apparently!! I'd be surprised if they can hear it more than a whisper, we live in an old semi so the walls are very thick, you cant even hear the vaccuum cleaner going (well unlesss they've never vaccuumed since we moved in I guess :D)

They are also funny about noise at ALL times as one works nights and the other days!!

Neighbours!! Who'd ave um

Hi,

Would it cause a problem if you did not use the crate - I had a similar problem with my lab puppy, when we put her in the crate she would just go crazy, barking and yelping to get out. We tried it for a number of occassions but she just got really stressed. Finally we decided to not use the crate and gave her a bed on the floor and ever since she has been fine.

We moved house because of our horrible neighbour we could turn our T.V sound off and listen to hers it was so loud but it seemed if we breathed too loud she would complain in the end. Mind you I dont think she was quite right in the head she used to go round in the middle of the night hitting mole hills in her garden with a shovel on the off chance she'd get lucky, I think if you didn't have a puppy she'd find something else to moan about I'm with Steph I'm afraid.

Cheers
Steve

I have to say here, be careful....dont go to mad trying to satisfy this petty persons need for near silence...it just ISNT possible!

Ive had a set of AWFUL neighbours, and i moved because of them.

My friend lives in a terraced house, and her neighbours knock on the walls to complain that she is walking up the stairs too loudly, or that she has friends round and they are laughing too loudly...and lots of other ridiculous things.
She started off by trying to keep quiet, quieter than i thought was reasonable..and she now feels intimidated by these ppl, as the wife sends her hubby round to shout at her for noise. She cant even complain back when they do annoying things (like 'she' flushes used tampons sanitary towels down the loo, which blocks up the joint drain system, flooding my friends yard with effluent!, they have parties iwth NO notice on a sunday night til 3 am....etc etc).

Stick to your guns, every day noise IS acceptable, and if they dont like it, then they will have to move somewhere quieter, to a detached house ontop of a mountian or something (though i daresay she is the type that would complain about birds singing too loud or cows going 'moo').

Em

Something i would say is that i too have been on the receiving end of noisy neighbours - they didn't use to be noisy, but we lived in a ground floor garden flat at the time and the upstairs couple took the carpets up al over the house. The original carpets were thick and totally obliterated any noise; now i could hear doors banging and the reverberation travelled down my walls and across my floor..... I could hear their conversatons and they could hear ours :( I wrote nice polite notes, (my dogs were reacting as if the noises were thunder - it was so upsetting to see) and phoned and talked, but he took up more carpet! So in the end i got my solicitor involved and she told him he had 21 days to agree to put carpets back or the whole property would revert to me LOL :D as i was the freeholder and he had broken various agreements.

Needless to say he put the carpets back. I still sold and left though as i felt i was living under a cloud after that. We do have lovely neighbours now, both sides :)

I loathe the whole semi/flat situation - unless the walls are thick its a very difficult way to live. It may be that your neighbour is just very sensitive ..... I was like this for years after my experience.... i was at a first aid class once in a big hall and jumped out of my skin when there was a bang on the floor above.

I'm not sure what the answer is except try not to live too close to people!!!

I can only say that I am glad the guy that used to live in my basement suite was gone before I got Kirra. He used to say that our walking was to loud when he was trying to read in the middle of the afternoon. My roommate and I were making Christmas Cookies last year and had Christmas music playing and he came storming upstairs and told us it was too loud. My room was right above his, so if my boyfriend and I were talking in regular tones he would bang on his roof/my floor to get us to be quiet. The kicker was when he complained that a guy and girl arguing woke him up at 5 in the morning. I was the only one home and I was sound asleep. One night I was laying in bed and I could hear him snoring, so my thought was that he would wake himself up and then hear something little upstairs and blame us. Now my boyfriend lives in my basement and you can hear Kirra when she is every where in the house. He loves it.
Really though, there are some people out there that are so miserable they can't stand to see other people happy so they do thier best to destroy everyone's mood. Just grin and bare it and hopefully the problem will resolve itself.
Drai

I think you’re encountering one of the more distasteful and unfortunately increasing character flaws in a lot of people in this country.

What should happen here is that your neighbour should be very reasonable and appreciate the efforts you have made, not be a push over if the noise is very bad and continues for week after week, but even if that happened she should be looking to have a chat to come to a solution.

However what is probably happening is you’re getting the “unpleasant person” (there are many other terms I could use, but this is a family board!!) reaction, which usually goes along the lines of “Ahh, weakness”. This has two usual effects, firstly they start to look for anything at all to complain about, “Yeah, about your dog and the noise …” it wouldn’t be surprising if she’s sitting in absolute silence waiting to knock the wall. Secondly they will actually interpret your kind actions as you being weak and will feel they have the upper hand and get much worse.

Sad, but so often true.

""Secondly they will actually interpret your kind actions as you being weak and will feel they have the upper hand and get much worse"".............exactly MRD, this is how I interpret these sort of people.
I'm always friendly with people first, as I am a friendly sort of gal :D but if they respond by being unreasonable, then that's it. They get my nasty side. You can only try so many times before they think they have you intimidated.

I know exactly what you mean, I'm a fairly big bloke, but nice jokey and friendly as life's way too short to be miserable and unpleasant, but it's a real shame the number of times you get these sorts of people reading that as weakness ... they don't do it for long mind you, just unfortunate you have to be nasty back !!

I thought for a minute I had already posted the problem I was about to write, it is certainly very similar to yours.

We have a 12 week old
beagle puppy. This is our second beagle and we find them to be lovely and affectionate pets. Remy, is a lovely natured dog
who is a normal puppy through the day, however at night, she howls and wines and generally gets very wound up. She has not
slept through the night since we had her at 8 weeks, to begin with we went to her in the night and now she gets so wound up at night and
flings herself at the door. We have tried ignoring her, but she howls for hours. We have also tried putting a ticking clock near by, a hot water bottle in
her bed and purchased a special plug from the vets. Nothing seems to work!

Luckily the neighours are far enough away not to complain, but for us it is becomingvery stressful, I need a good nights sleep.

Does anyone have any suggestions ?

In my own experience you can be too nice sometimes.my dogs are rarely left out as me and hubby work around them so one of us is usually at home with them.we have just had a flagged area made with a shed for them in case we go out for a while, eg shopping and we leave them in this then.They are never left out at night, and therefore any noise from them is absolutely minimal.In spite of this yesterday we had visitors so put the dogs in the garden, they were in there for about 20 mins and i went to give them a biscuit and my next door neighbour was telling them to f***in shut up.I am absolutely livid but don't trust myself to go round there yet to have it out with her.we literally bend over backwards to ensure they make as little noise as possible, and we never complain when they are doing diy every weeekend morning even though they are both retired, and could do it any other day.my other neighbour says the dogs don't make any noise, and he works from home.I've come to the conclusion that sometimes we are too nice and that's when people take the mickey:(

Literally bend over backwards?

Ooer ..I bet thats a sight to see

:D

ha ha, there would be a total eclipse if i bent over backwards:)

No look you have to see it both ways everyone.
i think its really nice the way you have treated her and she should try her best! with you.
But a pup keeping you up at nights mabe have got work the next day is no nice thing and you can understand why shes not happy.and mabe sleepless nights is making her more snappy with you.

You get the cuteness to wakeup in the morning and think aww bless , but she gets nothing but the noise. i can see both sides. its hard for you to shut him up and she cant sleep. its not your fault and you have to rember that.
I hope he stops crying in the night for both neigbour and yourself.my breeder said put a travel clock under his bed , mabe that might work. goodluck with the puppy:)

Its hard for both sides .you have to look at Posts one way and the other fellow posters,