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By fortis
Date 08.11.03 21:56 UTC
Two of the buyers of my pups have asked me if I will be getting the first vaccs done - one pup will be leaving just before 8 weeks, the other just after. I must admit I'd assumed it was normally the buyer who got this done, unless of course the pups stay with the breeder beyond 8 weeks. I've said I'd discuss it with my vet on Monday - but what do people normally do? Thanks.
Cathy.

Hi Cathy,
My vet doesn't give the first vaccination till 10 weeks, so the buyers would have a long wait for the pup!
:)
Part of my contract says that the purchasers must have the pup checked by their own vet within 48 hours of purchase.
So prior to them collecting the puppy I mention this fact and suggest that they combine this visit with talking to the vet about vaccinations.
I personally feel that to much stress is involved in the puppy going to a new home without the added stress of a visit to the vets plus injection just prior to them moving to their new home.
Jayne
By porkie
Date 08.11.03 22:41 UTC
If it helps,the breeder we will be getting our new puppy from will worm her and give me a sheet of dosage etc.plus some food to cover the first few days,but we will be responsible for the vacs.
So I have already been to my vet to enquire re:1st and 2nd vac.dates,plus continued worming courses and I have been looking into insurance companies and we will be getting her microchipped.
The only problem I have which I will have to discuss with the breeder for her advice,is with regard to ?frontline, flea,tick treatment etc. The vet says they advise a course of it?but I'm sure we didn't do this with our first dog,but that was 14years ago,things may have changed?
We will be collecting our puppy at 8weeks.

I don't like to send a part vaccinated pup off to it's new home, so normally would not do any vaccinations unless pups stayed beyond 10 weeks.
A problem occurs when the new owners vet insists on starting the vaccinations from scratch (pup ends up with 3 jabs), even though pup has had the first one. This may be because they use a different companies vaccines, or theat the gap between the first and second is not within their protocol, or just to be bloody minded. I do not like my pups to be pumped with unecesary vaccine.
I have kept a pup from this litter, and because of this have had her remaining brother vaccinated alongside her, but will be be getting second done on both on Wednesday at 10 weeks.
I collected my first girl at 7 1/2 weeks wormed and un-vaccinated and my second girl at 9 weeks also wormed and un-vaccinated, usually because vet likes to do complete vaccination procedure and this ensures they don't receive same vaccination twice.
I got both my pups from same breeder but as far as I know this is standard procedure.
Regards,
Linda
By Anwen
Date 09.11.03 08:02 UTC

I've never vaccinated the pups if they've gone before 10wks. Apart from anything else, it's an extra trip to the vet & extra exposure to germs while they are there.
When I bred my first litter of Munsters (11 yrs ago) they were all given their first jabs before going to their new homes. All of the new owners phoned us complaining that their vets had started the jabs from scratch so I no longer innoculate if the pups are going at 8 weeks. If the pups stay longer I will, but they won't be allowed to go to their new homes until the course is completed.
By John
Date 09.11.03 22:09 UTC
Hi Cathy. I have only had one puppy vaccinated before I took her home. So really it's a matter of you doing it the way you want. Remember, these are your puppies, you set the rules! :)
Best wishes, John

I picked Britney up from her breeder when she was 10 weeks, as I had asked them to keep her longer because I had a litter of newfoundlands that were going and did not want cross infection, instead of her getting the vacinations done and me haveing to have the second done at my vet, I was most suprised when she actually gave me the money to get both innoculations done by my own vet. Do any other breeder pay the puppy buyers to get inoculations done
<Do any other breeder pay the puppy buyers to get inoculations done>
This seems quite pointless. If a breeder wants to do this, why not just charge less?
The end result is the same, but there is no need to pass money to and fro.
snomaes
By Maiko
Date 10.11.03 06:40 UTC
Sasha had both vacs done before coming to me as she was flying to me at 12 weeks old. Nikki had 1st vacs done already but I went to the same vet for the booster so no problem there.

Snomeas
We asked the breeder to keep the pup for us after the others had been sold,We had not been told by the breeder that they usually got the inoculations done. It was a complete suprise to us when she gave us the money.
By fortis
Date 11.11.03 15:29 UTC
Thanks, everyone, for the good advice. I've decided to stick to my guns & ask the new owners to arrange for the vaccinations.
Apart from all the very good reasons already given, I have to say the thought of taking 6 large & lively lab puppies to the vet all at once is a daunting prospect, to say the least!! :D :D :D
Cathy.
By Zoo Keeper
Date 11.11.03 16:55 UTC
Well now this is interesting. Around here almost all pups come with their first round of shots. Both of my dogs came to me at 7 weeks old with their first vaccines done. I was given a booklet with the dates and types of wormings and shots already given, so the vet picked up from there. I was fully intending on giving my pups their first shots before sending them to their new homes. I won't have to take them to the vet for it because I can mail order the vaccines to my home and do it myself. Is this a bad practice? Or are things just done differently here in the US?

Very differently. For a start, only vets are allowed to do the injections - it is against the law for ordinary owners to do it!
:)
By biocan
Date 11.11.03 17:40 UTC
Well, here in Mexico, things are like that too. The pups are given their first vaccination (or even more!!!) before being sold, depending on their age, but at 7/8 weeks they already have their first shot. And we don't either need a vet for that, if you're a breeder or even a trainer, you can get the vaccines directly and apply them yourself, but you can't do it commercially for other dogs different from your own (or your litters).

I know that timings and the types of diseases covered vary slightly between UK and USA.
We cannot obtsain or incoulate our own dogs over here, only Vets are allowed to administer them. Frontline is also a prescription only med her.
It costs on average £50 (over $83) to do the two sets of vaccines pups normally have.
By Zoo Keeper
Date 12.11.03 00:02 UTC
OK, so things are very different. Here in the US you can obtain any vaccine EXCLUDING the rabies shot. Only vets can administer a rabies vaccine. Here, pups get their first round at about 6 weeks of age... and I won't let a pup go until at least 8 weeks, so a first round seems to be in order. Intersting side note.. Frontline was also prescrition only here in the US until this summer. Boy am I happy I can get it now online without an Rx! :)

I get frontline off American ebay, but the suppliers come from Austrialia, it cost me less doing it that way
By Lollie
Date 12.11.03 08:47 UTC
With my puppies, they all had their first injection before going to their new homes. My vet came to the house to do them, so i didn't need to put them all in the van and get them to the surgery. He did them at 7 weeks, which gave them all time to settle down and for me to keep an eye on them in case any had reactions to the vaccine, they all went off to their new homes at 8 weeks. All new owners were given the vaccination cards and told when the next injection was due. None of my new owners had any propblems with their vets doing the second injection. I rang all the owners to make sure they had booked their puppies in when the time came.
This worked really well for me and i got a good discount from my vet for having the whole litter done at the same time, and he didn't charge me for the house call.
Karen.
By fortis
Date 12.11.03 10:16 UTC
I rang my vets about this & they said they charge £35 for the course of 2 primary injections, but £26.50 for the first only....

.....I know they charge £35 for a house call in addition to any other charges. There was no mention of a discount. So did you charge the buyers extra for this, or include it in the selling price?
Cathy.
By Lollie
Date 12.11.03 10:25 UTC
All included in the price of the puppy.
Karen.
By valezio
Date 13.01.04 14:16 UTC
My daughter has just given a home to a 11 week old Labrador puppy who had already had the first shots. She had the 2nd ones yesterday and was told to keep the pup away from other dogs and public places for a further 2 weeks. Is this the normal procedure please?
Thanks,
Best wishes
Val :-)

Hi Val,
Certainly another week - 10 days is normal practice. The vet may know that there have been cases of disease in your daughter's area, so is being extra careful. She should still take him out and about to socialise him, of course - she'll just have to carry him instead of letting him walk.
:)
By DebbieN
Date 14.01.04 23:36 UTC
Hi
I was wondering about this 10day wait after second jab...My vet told me that my lab puppy can socalise fully with dogs that have had both jabs after she has had her first and then after her second she is fine to go out on walks and play with other dogs.
If we wait a futher 10days after her second jab she will be nearlly 15 weeks old and i thought that it was important to socalise them with other dogs long before they were 16 weeks old.
Debbie
By sahazza
Date 14.01.04 18:13 UTC
our policy is to vaccinate for parvo and the new owner does the rest when the puppy is old enough. If you do vaccinate, inclue it in the price of the puppy.
By fortis
Date 14.01.04 23:25 UTC
My puppies are now 13 weeks old!!! I was surprised to see this thread re-appear after all this time! Actually in the end all the buyers were very happy to get the vacs done at their first vet check - no problem at all. :) :) :)
Cathy.
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