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By StupidWoman
Date 06.11.03 13:11 UTC
im an idiot i know but we got another dog (3 year old collie cross Boo)yesterday without realising our 8 month old collie cross (delta) was in season. we tried to keep them apart but the new dog must have jumped over the baby gate while i was bathing my son and my partner was out as when i got down stairs and you can guess what happened.
what is the chance of my girl being pregnant?
how mcuh approximatly will vet fees cost.
i know i know i should have done more to keep them apart.
we had planned on getting the new dog fixed in a week or so once he had settled down a bit. which we will probably do any way
the dogs are similar sizes
if she is pregnant what kind of things should i be doing to ensure healthy mum and pups
i promis i will find good homes and will get Delta fixed ASAP
i am an idiot
and sorry to upset any body
Krystie
By Carla
Date 06.11.03 13:13 UTC
At 8 months your girls life is in danger if she continues with a pregnancy. Take her to the vets now for the morning after jab and keep your fingers crossed. The chances are at 8 months she will not make a good mum and you will end up hand raising any she does actually have.
Please, please get your girl to the vets now - she is only a baby herself :(
By StupidWoman
Date 06.11.03 13:14 UTC
do you know approximatly how much it will cost?
By StupidWoman
Date 06.11.03 13:15 UTC
opps my girls 10 month not 8
she will be 1 in janurary
By Carla
Date 06.11.03 13:18 UTC
The minimum for mating should be 2 years old - before then she has not matured well enough to carry or look after pups.
Probably around £40 - a lot cheaper than raising pups - there you are looking at least a grand to raise a healthy litter, assuming she doesn't need a section.... Ask your vet if you can pay in installments, or try the PDSA?
By Lokis mum
Date 06.11.03 13:20 UTC
I agree with Chloe - you could find yourself paying a lot more than £40 for the injection if she needs a C-section to deliver the pups. Phone the vet's now - or try & find the nearest PDSA clinic to you - put it in the search engine & you should find one fairly local to you.
Margot
By StupidWoman
Date 06.11.03 13:27 UTC
thanks all ill see what i can do i am stupid i know i feel awfull
my local vet wont allow installments
i am going to ring another vet near me and look for a PDSA
thanks again
By Brinny
Date 06.11.03 13:29 UTC
Dont feel to bad accidents do happen no matter what anyone says .. i know been there done that and survived the anxiety..
Brinny
By Carla
Date 06.11.03 13:48 UTC
I also remember you saying you wouldn't put your girl through it again at the time? :) Its traumatic enough when its not an accident.
By Brinny
Date 06.11.03 14:21 UTC
No you are right Chloe. I have now had my girl spayed. i am just pleased that she was ok. And i stick by it never ever again!!LOL
aND WITH HINDSIGHT I PROB WOULD HAVE IGNORED MY VET AND HAD THE JABS THAT TIME!!!
Brinny
By Brinny
Date 06.11.03 13:18 UTC
I think if i remember rightly when i asked for the "morning after pill" for my girl it was an injection a day or so after mating and one 3 days later and was going to cost about £40.00.
Brinny

A lot less than rearing a litter of pups, which even without the health tesrts and a stud fee are likely to be considerable. Have you a spare £1000!!!!
It is likely to cost around £50 to get the jabs done.
By Melton
Date 06.11.03 13:33 UTC
Please don't let your puppy continue with a pregnancy, she is far too young. Consult your veterinary for fees they are the ones that will know how much it will cost.
I agree she is much too young even if she is a year old. One important thing though when you get the jab done she will revert back to the beginning of her season so you must be extra vigilant afterwards that it does not happen again because she will accept him again.
By Zoo Keeper
Date 06.11.03 15:35 UTC
While I agree that the dog is too young, I must say that I disagree that it means she won't be a good mother. My friend had the same stupidity moment at her home and her 7 month old GSD got pregnant. She had a perfect pregnancy and whelped 9 beautiful pups and raised them like a pro. While being too young increases risks, I don't believe that it means it will end in tragedy 100% of the time. I've seen far too many dogs whelp under 2 years old that have been perfectly fine and so were the pups.
(Please don't think I am advocating this! We waited until Daisy was nearly three years old before trying, and she is now 3 1/2 years old and in whelp...the perfect age in our opinions)
By fortis
Date 06.11.03 15:49 UTC
Interesting, this... I am a retired Health Visitor & I know everyone throws their hands up in horror at young teenage mums.....but they usually have the most beautiful babies and in fact are often very good with them - whittling far less than the older professionals who sometimes find their change of circumstances very difficult to come to terms with. Yes, there are principles, with people & dogs, but sometimes it's better not to be too sweeping, but rather to assess each situation on its merits - and not to judge other people too harshly....:) :) :)
Cathy.
By Melton
Date 06.11.03 15:53 UTC
These comments are all very well, but at 10 months old this bitch has not stopped growing herself. I'm sure no one wants their 13 year old daughter to be pregnant even if she does turn out to be a good mum.
By Carla
Date 06.11.03 15:56 UTC
Cathy - I have not seen ONE judgemental post here?

I do not believe it is a good idea to let a puppy of 8 months have puppies. Yes, it might have been done, and no, it might not end in tragedy, but its not right and the risks are greater. I would just deal with this now and enjoy a prepared litter in a year or two.
By fortis
Date 07.11.03 09:40 UTC
No, I didn't mean to imply that - I just meant that some situations which are far from ideal can sometimes work out OK. Obviously if there's time to stop this particular pregnancy, that would seem to be the best solution in this case. :) :) :)
Cathy.
By sweatybetty
Date 06.11.03 20:59 UTC
hi, agreed :) however how many teen mums end up having assisted birth and c sections compared with older mums?..........as with *teen* bitchs just not mature enough to cope with the actual trauma of whelping a litter and raising a litter of up to 10 or 11 hungry pups :( (in my opinion)
By fortis
Date 07.11.03 09:50 UTC
Sorry, I have no statistics, but generally my impression is no more than older mums. This is completely off topic & very subjective, sorry....reverting to people... :) but I had an older mum who was lovely but I would so have loved to have seen my mum when she was younger, and for my children to have had a grand-mother beyond their infant years. I've visited families where the grand-parents & great-grandparents are still young & active & it's just so lovely & I'm just a bit sad about it, although I'm a granny myself now! Sorry to divert.
Cathy.
By Fillis
Date 07.11.03 11:46 UTC

Thats all well and good, but apart from the age of this bitch, the poster obviously is on a strict budget. This means she wont be able to afford everything to ensure a happy healthy litter, so on these grounds alone, the pregnancy should not continue.
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