My limpy lame pup Cam has just been diagnosed by the vet with Pano. I'm feeling a bit miserable as he's advised that we can expect the symptoms (lameness) to continue until Cam's about 10 months, and not to encourage him to run freely - ie play games with him etc. Just lead walking on the flat for half an hour at a time. *Sob*. Cam of course is utterly oblivious to the fact that his life is about to become a No Fun Zone.

Does anyone on Champers have any experience of Pano? I''ve done some internet research of course (thanks Kerioak for your info pages) but it would be good to hear something positive.

Jo

I have no info, sorry Jo, just wanted to wish Cam a speedy recovery, and buckets of patience to you

liberty

Try this link Fred Lanting is an acknowledged expert in Pano

Never had it in any of my dogs but my friiends now 11 year old dane had it as a puppy & she gave her Devils Claw & rest-luckily Meggie was a lazy puppy & literally took to her sofa when she limped & slept a lot. She is a very big Merle Harlequin girl who grew really quickly as a puppy, but grew out of the pano & never had any problems later on

If it is panostetits (sp?) he will grow out of it, just manage the shifting lameness.
Dawn.

Yes twice, which is why I suggested that was what it was, don't worry he will grow out of it, and even whilst he has it, it will come and go.

With my first one I used pain-killing drugs during the bad times but the second time the dog was younger and I used cage rest and he had no drugs at all. Did make sure that the food they had was not too high in protein and the problem is caused by the bone growing too fast for the dogs system to deal with. This was my idea not the vet but it did seem to help. The first dog started at around 10 months and it ended around 14, the other was only 5 months and he was also about 14 months when it stopped.

Some of the time the dog will be fine, some times it moves from leg to leg some times it is always the same limb. The dog can't hurt it's self by running about but I did find that strong exercise brought on the pain, so I did my best to avoid too much running about but if they did they would have a bout of pain within a day or so.

Cheer up you will suffer more than the dog.

Hi Jo

I used to find that quite a few owners of my pups, especially males, rang me at some point to say their pup was lame and the vets wanted to test for all sorts of things but it turned out to be Pano. My last litter 15 months ago were weaned onto, and raised partly or primarily on a raw diet and none of the owners have mentioned lameness. This is the reason I recommended in the other thread that you read "Grow Your Pups With Bones" as I think you may find the section on growth and bone problems interesting :)

You will probably find that the lameness causes him to self-limit his exercise - just don't let him go too mad when he is feeling fit.

Good luck

Christine

My XB had Pano when she was about 9 months, lasted approx two months, just took it easy, I think she has a couple of short courses of Rimadyl, but Vet was keen for her not to have too many drugs so we could monitor the lameness, and know when it had gone. He'll be fine, just take it easy for a bit

Best of luck

Hayley

is it a border collie,if so I know a top breeder whose pup had this and it is all better now and winning loads in the ring at 18 mths,so don't despair,sandra.

Hi Jo

Our older dog also had it, and it did go away with no lasting effects whatsoever. With ours it stopped when we switched him to a raw diet from a high protein commercial one. I don't feed raw now, but do feed a low protein complete diet, which is meat and rice based, and our younger boy has never had a day's lameness in his life.

With regards to exercise, our vet said to go with the dog and what he wanted to do, and we found that he did indeed self limit, never needing much more than a day or so at a time of on lead walking, and even that was grudging on dog's part as he danced along desperate to be off!

Try not to worry about it, it does pass :)

Lesley

Murph was diagnosed with this in May this year - he's 10 months old now.
I changed his diet for a while and just tried to slow his growth right down. I disappeared as quickly as it appeared after a couple of months - surprisingly!

TTFN

Ruth

Thanks everyone for your support. Kerioak, I will check out Grow your Pup - I have a huge amount of sympathy for BARF. The only reason I haven't raised Cam on raw is that he is my first 'big' dog (and first dobe of course) and I thought it wiser to rely on a pre-prepared quality dog food (Nature diet in his case). It isn't too late to change him over however, so I'm going to have a bit of a rethink re the diet this week and see what I come up with.

Thanks

Jo :)