has anyone read the aricle in this months dogs today about vaccinations,To suumerice the American Animal hospital Canine vaccine Taskforce reccomendations are as follows, Never vaccinate al less than8weeks,and never just 2 weeks apart, but the thing that caught my eye was @never give annual booster, these are unnecessary and subject the dog to the risk of allergic reations and diseases such as auto-immune haemolytic anaemia, Also the antibodies from the initial vaccine neutralise the antigens in the booster vaccine. Why is there no study like this taking place in the uk?. The article goes on in alot more detail about the study and was written by a vet.

There is actually a lot of info about this in the UK! The first I saw about it was an article in either Dog World or Our Dogs about 15 years ago. If you do a search on here you will find no end of threads on the subject including one only a couple of weeks ago!

Regards, John

Try this one
http://www.champdogsforum.co.uk/cgi-bin/board/topic_show.pl?tid=34505

Kath

I thought that this was generally known in the UK.

We stopped annual boosters for our dogs 5 years ago after requesting our vet to provide us with documentry proof that it is necessary. He contacted the vaccine manufacturers and could not get a definitive answer, so we took the decision to stop vaccinating after initial puppy vaccinations followed by a first (and last) booster at 15 months of age.

snomaes

Hi Snomaes, *I thought that this was generally known in the UK.* obviously not, sadly, but thats only going by most of the replies on threads regarding the subject!!!!!! Take a look thru the past topics & the amount of times people ask for proof/accuse people not boostering/vaccinating of riding on the backs of those that do/go by what their vet experts say/anual boosters are vital for health/take my chances with the needle rather than risk the deadly diseases out there etc etc.......just some of the replies.
I stopped them just over 2yrs ago now & have 2 youngsters who`ve never received them & won`t ever receive them. I`ll take my chances of them being able to resist any diseases they are threatened with thru natural exposure than any that will be given them thru so called modified unnatural exposure at the end of a needle!

Christine, Spain.

is the mag dated october or november?

november

Boosters for the live vaccination may well be unnecessary but the ones given for Infections Canine Hepatitis and Leptospirosis are not and my vet advices that a repeat vaccination should be given at no longer gaps than 15 months. And although they call them boosters they in fact only give the dead vaccine for these 2 groups of infection. And advice if you leave it longer then it is as well to give the 2 again within 3 to 4 weeks to be sure the immunity is re-established.

Hi Jacki H,

My vet agrees with

Hi,

Sorry,don't know what happened there?

As I was saying my vet basically agrees with what your saying as well.However I still vaccinate all my dogs and give boosters.I know you can get blood tests send off to Glasgow to check the level of your dog immunity but that i'm told ican be done only for 2 of the 4 we vaccinate for and the cost you might as well vaccinate.

We also kennel our dogs sometimes ,although we know other Golden breeders who look after the dogs if we planned a holiday long in advance, most boarding kennels require up to date boosters.
I used to give the kennel cough vaccine ,however because this can take many forms and vaccine only covers certain strain i'm undecided about this.

Interested to know what the current thinking and what is most practical.I know alot of breeders still give boosters Goldens and other breeds and some that don't.

Briony :-)

Hi,

If you bred a litter what do you advise the new owners, to vaccinate or not ?

Briony :-)

Hi Briony

Not sure if your question is for anyone in particular but I'll jump in and say if I was a breeder I would recommend just the puppy jabs. No boosters at all.

Just my (strongly held) opinion.

Joyce

Hi,

It was for no one in particular I was interested what others did.

I have a new pup in a weeks time of which i'll have all the vaccinations done plus the boosters.
I've not found having the boosters done on any of my dogs ever owned caused any problems.I think the vaccinations should not be so expensive buts that is another matter.
At present I also insure all my dogs as well I know many breeders do not do this because number of dogs involved and it's matter of choice.I'm considering perhaps insuring for the first 2 years of each new pup.

What do others think?

Briony :-)

No I wouldn`t give any vaccs & would advise new owners to do the same.

Christine, Spain.

Jackie as far as I know the vacc`s for adno(hepatitis) is live attenuated. I was looking for a dead one couple yrs ago & couldn`t find one, who`s the manufacturer of the one given to your dogs? The lepto vaccs is only for 2 of the strains so if dogs come across any other strain & there a lot of strains, they are`nt protected, also it only lasts for 9mths, if that. Which means they should be vaccinated twice a yr to give them full cover. It`s also the one thats know to cause most adverse reactions
http://www.ivis.org/advances/Infect_Dis_Carmichael/mcdonough/chapter_frm.asp?LA=1

Christine, Spain.

Was only speaking to the vet about it on Tuesday, may be things have changed, may be she is wrong or may be I miss-understood - will check again next time I am there.

OK thanks Jackie, I`d appreciate that. :)

Christine, Spain.

That's the exaxt information my vet gave. The rat population is booming so the lepto is vital, as is C Hepatitus booster. They suggested that even my older dogs should given these, as protection against the above two does not last.

Coleen

i looked in the november one, had a weimarner special and stuff about fireworks, but could not see a vaccine article?? am i being a bit blind and missed it or was i looking in the wrong issue? very intrested in this subject at the moment as i am debating whether or not to have my 2 yr old boostered, considering having blood sent to glasgow to be antibody tested. has anyone else done this?
kelly

Hi I looked into doing this and was told quite expensive as the blood test would need to be done yearly to check the levels and only 2 of the diseases could be checked in this way.
Still looking into the matter,otherwise I'll continue do yearly boosters.

If anyone has more up to date or research to offer much appreciated,as I said not had any problems with yearly boosters.

Regards Briony :-)

Briony if you go to the link Kath gave further up this thread you will find people have had titres done & not at great expense. You will also find a message that I posted containing quite a few links to research & articles/facts about boosters/vaccs.

Christine, Spain.

Yes there are a few on here who have done titres on their dogs & been pleasantly surprised to know that no boosters where necessary :). Have a look at the link Kath provided further up this thread.

Christine, Spain.

Hi Christine,

Thanks for that .How often do you need to the titres by which time is cheaper to vaccinate?I'll take a look at the link,

Regards Briony :-)

Hi Briony, have a read at the info there first. It`s a lot of reading but I think it should be done before anyone makes up there mind to booster or not. You will also find the lnik to Glasgow Uni & I think they give the prices & what they titre for. You wouldn`t need to titre more than once a yr I should think but Glasgow are very helpful & you could discuss this with them. But you need to bear in mind titres can`t test memory cells & it`s known they also play a big part in activating antibodies to form a response when threatened by a particular disease. As I say it`s a lot of reading but afterwards you`ll be able to make an informed decision :)

Christine, Spain.

Thanks,

I'll print this off,

Briony :-)

You`re welcome:)

Christine, Spain.

sorry it took so long to answer ive been away, its on parge58 nov issue

Hi D/Bee, there`s a couple reasons there is very little research being done anywhere. a) the conditions animals would have to be kept in for the trials b) the only people to afford such research would be the manufacturers & it wouldn`t be in their interests for fewer vaccines to be used. It`s a multi zillion dollar business!

Christine, Spain

ps could you find out the date of the mag for me please, I like to keep these articles thanks :)

nov 03 page 58