Does anyone know of a Labradoodle breeder ? in the West Country preferrably.
Many thanks
richardsweet@bigfoot.com

Why on earth do you want to buy an overpriced x-breed? Are there not enough breeds for you to choose from, and if you don't want a reconised breed then why not go to a rescue socity, heaven knows there are enough x-breeds looking for a good home. Jackie H

Whether we agree with the guest choice or not there's no need to be like that.

I'm beginning to think there's some real snobbery creeping into the website. Just because people aren't looking for 'our types of dogs' doesn't mean that they should be treated in such a derisory manner.

Fiona

I'm sorry if you consider my reply to be derisory, I just do not see why people would want a designer dog when there are so many dogs, of attactive appearance, waiting for a new home. Can't bear the thought of people being encouraged to breed yet more x-breeds. Please check your local rescue centre they will have lots of dogs wanting homes. I will be much happier if someone will tell me why they want a designer dog what ever the cross as I just can not understand, unless it is the catchy title. Jackie H

This post was returned in a strange search engine query today:

"what would happen if a tigon and liger mated"

Cross breeding

It doesn't answer that question but it may be relevant to this discussion.

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>>"what would happen if a tigon and liger mated"

You'd get Tigonligers, of course! :rolleyes: or maybe Ligertigons?

Then again you might get Liontigers or even Tigerlions?

Or does it go full circle and you get Lions and Tigers in the same litter

Was it a trick question? Do Tigers and Lions mate? :D

Respectfully suggest you should get out more!!
(would love to put a 'joking' face on here to ensure you know I'm having a laugh but am Techno Pygmy and don't know how!)

Linda

Funny you should mention that Linda, I have been thinking the very same thing myself lately :D that is .. that I need to get out more ......not that you are a Techno Pygmy ....lol

You can find out how to do the smiley's by clicking on 'help' at the top of the page. All will be revealed ;-)

Thanks Leigh! I was so but now am :D !

Hope this works, neither my spelling nor my typing are up to much!!!

:D :D :D

Tigers and lions do mate in captivity (not even on the same continent in the wild) and if you cross a male Lion with a female Tiger you get a liger, if you cross a male tiger with a female Lion you get a tigon. They have then crossed a male Lion with a female Tigon and got a Litigon!
And for the doubting thomases amongst you I have even found you a piccie of some (one of them is a monster cat!) as well as a Lion Leopard hybrid! http://lionshrine.topcities.com/otherlions.htm

I once read some sensible advice about "Poo's". It went something like,"Don't be fooled into paying through the nose for a mutt with a fancy name.". I also realise people will charge what the market will bear. It's really all down to the individual to make an informed choice about what they are buying!
Hmmm. I think I should go back to University. I can't seem to stop talking about business lately! :D

I am afraid I too wonder about all those new crosses. I know all our dogs came from crosses well most anyway , but it was with a purpose for one thing or another , like guarding or hunting or even fighting . but the end result is too many unwanted dogs , [I wish I was speaking now instead of typing,] this is what we have today hundreds of dogs destroyed every week. castration and spaying to prevent further unwanted puppies,rescue homes filled to capacity and then some , dog lovers should not be encouraging more experimantal breeding , .fact is fact . how much more proof does one need . snobbery does not come in to this , there are enough of breeds out there to chose from , too many really .we are spoiled for choice . The world does not need any more breeds to add to collection of slaughter.the breeds we have should be protected not add to that awesome task I am sorry if I am not in agreement with those new experimental dog crossers .but I know I am not alone in my opinion. mari

Welcome to the forum.

Try Carol Hurst on 0191 387 4616.

Leigh

the labradoodle was as most of you will know bred by the guide dogs for the blind, to have the working capabilities of the lab but the coat of the poodle-hopefully !!for allergic , sensitive blind owners, if this breed is still on the go then its just as well that someone out there would like one for a pet as they wont all make guide dogs

sounds like an important reason

someone else who's a poor sleeper then?????;)

no dizzy i think it is just us if im not mistaken bumbleacres is in america and it would be normal for her to be up :d anyway im really off to bed now so night all mari ;)

Morning Dizzy, It is this end of the night that I don't sleep, as I understand it the labradoddle was breed by the guide dog people but the cross turned out to be unreliable so they stopped the breeding. By unreliable I meen that a small % turned out as they had hoped but the rest were just a mish mash of the two breeds with unsertain coat types, temperment, size etc. It is what you would expect I supose if one has even a small knowledge of genetics. And just in case someone has the handbag ready I am not talking to you directly but to every one in general. Not that you would think I was but one has to be carefully doesn't one. Jackie H

This is true Jackie, the Guide Dogs stopped breeding them shortly after the first attempts. Any one deliberatly breeding them would have the greatest difficulty finding anyone who would allow their dog to be used for stud so the chances on good sound stock being used is slim.

John

I think Australia started doing this first and have had some success with it. As far as I know they still do it. The UK only produced one litter (as far as I know) and did get two dogs working as Guide Dogs (I met one of them, a lovely dog) but were not happy with the experiment in general and have not repeated it. The Guide Dogs organisation do own their own stud dogs so could repeat it if they wished but have had not done so.

I understand their own preference for breeding is a Labrador and a Goldie mating, but they never go on and breed from the progeny. They also accept donated puppies from other breeds if suitable but don't normally breed from the donated dogs.

Joan
take the rough with the smooth

This is very true Joan. The Golden cross Labrador makes a very biddable guide dog. Large enough for a man and a superb temperament. So I understand it from people I talk with, unfortunately this is not carried through to the next generation! Strange, because you would have thought that the second generation would have fixed the characteristics and this was the original thought but it never happened like that.

As the saying goes, "There are more things in heaven and earth dear Horatio than are dreamed of in your philosophy"

Best Wishes, John

PS the 6N is looking good this year!

there seems to be a fair bit of lab-flat coat now, -the skull and tails give it away-

A young dog of our breeding has been approached as a potential Guide dog sire, though I think everything's in the melting-pot at the moment. They are certainly training lab/flatcoat crooses - I have also been asked for bitch pups from the GDBA, but had none available .

Jo and the Casblaidd Flatcoats

i know this for sure as my dads blind, and the dog hes had for many years has just retired and he now had a lab -flatcoat cross, its got a fabulous temperament, loves everything and everybody-but its a tad flightier than the lab-it picks anything up from the ground and hangs onto it-tissues sweet packets ,tab ends etc, thats a bit of a challenge for a blind person, i alsom find it stands up on its back legs a lot more than the lab==feet on tables -windows -people etc, dont know if its a flatcoat thing or just an individual trait to him,

They normally fail a guide dog for what they call scavenging (picking stuff up off the floor )as it is dangerous for the blind person,you should tell the centre what the dog is doing,we had a rescue dog accepted for training and all went well but for that and he was rejected.

they told my dad he was doing it when he got him, he was from the middlesborough centre, they took him out lots and watched how he performed, hes not as bad in harness ,but hes horrific loose in the house

It sure is a flatcoat thing!!!!

Jo and the Casblaidd Flatcoats

"O, 'tis too true!" Do you think England can do the Grand Slam this year? Ireland look quite powerful.

Joan
take the rough with the smooth

Even back in the 1930's there was talk of Flatcoat being added to Labrador to get a faster Field Trials dog, Linda and the latest rumour is the addition of Border Collie/Working Sheepdog. They might win but they will never be Labradors and if they need to cheat to win then I have no time for them.

Ireland and England certainly appear to be the form teams this year Joan. It’s nice to see Ireland up there at the top after the lean years! Should make for a really enjoyable series this year Joan!

Best wishes to you both, John