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By mattie
Date 18.09.03 11:14 UTC
can you search for BBC news a house in lancaster had over two hundred animals in appalling conditions
Our local kennels has some of the dogs they are pekes,shit zu Lhasa apso etc.. anyone interested in offering any homes I can point you in the right direction email me
By Sooz
Date 18.09.03 11:18 UTC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/3118510.stm
awful, poor little beanies!
By tanni
Date 18.09.03 11:31 UTC
i saw that on the news today. poor dogs. :( :(.
By Lokis mum
Date 18.09.03 11:41 UTC
I heard it - but thought I must have misheard it! Over 200 dogs in a 3 bedroomed house - RSPCA tipped off by neighbours - thought that maybe, when the RSPCA were tipped off, there were only 100!
Poor, poor creatures - what sort of lives have they had until now - lets hope that good homes can be found for those that survive - and it did sound as if some of them wouldn't.
Margot
By Lara
Date 18.09.03 11:44 UTC
Appalling :( Heard it on the news as well. At least their suffering is over now - one way or another.
Lara x
By cdshaw
Date 18.09.03 14:00 UTC
I have just read the news report, sends shivers down the spine, I can't believe so many animals can be packed into a 3 bed house, and much less imagine how they must of suffered.
By ClaireM
Date 18.09.03 14:02 UTC
Heard this on the news and then read about it in the paper. What I find even more shocking about this story is that local residents were quoted as 'having endured ten years of hell with dogs barking and whining all day long'. WHY IN GODS NAME WASN'T SOMETHING DONE SOONER? TEN YEARS!!!!! The owners want stringing up and the local residents should be ashamed for not reporting it sooner. (I know what everyone thinks on here of the RSPCA but even they couldn't take ten years to respond surely? ........ could they?!!!!!!!)
By jacki
Date 18.09.03 14:26 UTC
yes they could :)

Doesn't surprise me Claire, we had neighbours who had 32 cats and 17 dogs, none of which were allowed out of doors, the smell was awful in summer, we informed the RSPCA, who told us as the animals didn't appear to be mistreated there was nothing they could do. We then informed Enviromental health who because no offence was being committed had to make appointments to go and view conditions in the house, this of course meant there was a big clean up before each visit, Enviromental health also advised us that as we were going to put our house on the market it might not be a good idea to persue a complaint as any potential buyer would be made aware of problems between our selves and neighbours.
We then had to put up with next doors sons intimidating behaviour towards my self and my wife, that is until of course I invited some bricklayers and labourers I worked with home for afternoon tea and they discussed in loud voices how much they abhorred bullies and smelly people, stangely the threats stopped then.
So yes I can see how these situations can go on for years.
Robert
By mali fan
Date 18.09.03 14:25 UTC
I heard this too on the radio at dinnertime. Poor little souls. Let's just hope they all get nice homes soon.
By cdshaw
Date 18.09.03 14:57 UTC
Will they be able to re home the animals straight away? i read a similar story in the news and the PSPCA still had the animals after 3 months because a court desision hadn't been made to ban the owner from keeping pets (and she wanted them back)

If the case goes to court (which I sincerely hope it does) the animals which are well enough to survive cannot be rehomed until the court case is finished, because until they are signed over they are not the RSPCA's property, and they may be needed as evidence.
By jacki
Date 18.09.03 15:16 UTC
At least now they are in a better environment by the sound of it, poor things
By Rachel
Date 18.09.03 15:33 UTC
There were 224 dogs. A shih tzu, bearded collies, lhaso apsos, dachshunds, dozens of mongrels, a corgi, pekineses, poodles, chihuahaus and yorkshire terriers. Also there was 16 parrots, 5 cats, 2 kittens, a rabbit and a chinchilla. All in a three bedroom house. It makes you feel sick thinking about what the condition of them would be like.
By lel
Date 18.09.03 15:59 UTC

I have just read it and its totally unbelievable :( :(
Where this couple farmers or just insane ?? :(
Can you inmagine the smell and the noise - how do you clear up after that many dogs - poor mites - have you seen the pictures of them ?
By Rachel
Date 18.09.03 16:10 UTC
That's the point! They didn't clean up after them!
I've been trying to imagine how many dogs could fit in each room, and it's just appalling! Poor things :( Not to mention the other animals too - caged animals and parrots etc also need love and attention.
Does anyone know if this is the biggest amount of animals ever found in a house?
And yes - why on earth wasn't it sorted out/reported earlier?
Lindsay
By filbert
Date 18.09.03 16:56 UTC
I'm really glad something has been done - HOWEVER, lets face it the RSPCA couldve done something years ago - and they can save animals living like this and worse everyday but dont!!! But what wonderful publicity this makes for them hey!!!

To be fair to the RSPCA (and boy! I don't do that lightly!) they can only investigate if people report something amiss. We wouldn't want them patrolling like the Gestapo, spot-checking people's houses on the off-chance.
By Rachel
Date 18.09.03 17:07 UTC
This had been the largest amount of animals ever taken from one house by the RSPCA.
By mattie
Date 18.09.03 17:42 UTC
The dogs at my friends kennels are all young mainly bitches Ill go and see them tomorow and report back.
If the owner signs them over they can be rehomed if not they are stuck there till the court case is over I hope to God they sign them over.do you remember the case of the chorley woman with all the westies and irish terriers etc.. I saw them when they were brought in in an appalling state ! they were at the kennels months and months and she only signed some oldies over she ended up getting them all back due to a mistake by the rspca they left two oldies with her at the time and the case was won on a technicality it was argued if she was good enough owner to keep them then she wasnt a bad owner
By filbert
Date 18.09.03 18:13 UTC
Oh well fingers crossed they sign the poor blights over!!! I know we all love puppies - but there has to be a point at which we stop collecting!!!
I've recently come back from spain and visiting a couple of pet shops made me want to rescue the whole lot - but in reality it quite impractical! I left very sad...
So if I can help with this lot I will!
By sarahb_work
Date 18.09.03 18:51 UTC
I heard this on the radio on the way home from work and was disgusted. But then they said that the RSPCA was still deciding whether or not to press charges!! What is so difficult about that decision?

If they press charges they may not be able to rehome the animals until the case is over.
By mayhem
Date 18.09.03 19:23 UTC
Mattie, your report will be interesting as the Shih Tzus in the cage seemed well socialised, not fearful, tails were wagging, they were not cowering. Dirty yes, but not unduly starved and no mange was evident. It did not mention if the owners were breeding, for no mention of puppies was made, only adult dogs. 200 dogs must have produced an enormous amount of faeces, None was visible in the garden so, if left in the house it must have been knee deep.
By Marky
Date 18.09.03 19:53 UTC
I saw it on the local news tonight and the RSPCA said they didnt' know if they were going to prosecute..It did show the women though with a scarf around her head backing out of the driveway in a new BMW convertible!!So i think it is obvious what they were up to....
Also in our local newspaper tonight a couple have been banned for ten years from keeping dogs..The border collie weighed 8.4 kg when found and it should have weighed 22 Kg..The RSPCA still left them with 2 cats,a budgie,a goldfish,two rabbits and a hamster...They are unbelivable and i wont go into the RSPCA officer murdering a cat on Pet rescue this week when all it seemed was wrong with it was conjunctivitous(hope i spelt it right)....There is no way i would support them..
By filbert
Date 18.09.03 21:46 UTC
Just saw some of the shih tzus on the tv - some had been clipped back to the skin - indicating serious MATTING of the fur... Believe me this can be incredibly painful for the poor dogs and is serious neglect - after all it doesnt take much to clip them yourself at home if you have a problem coat or just dont want a long coat!
I'll rehome one or two if i get the chance!!!
By jacki
Date 18.09.03 22:16 UTC
If the owners refuse to sign the dogs over and the rspca decide not to prosecute, will the owners be able to take all the 200 odd dogs back home?
By Nicola
Date 19.09.03 12:05 UTC
I caught the news article too. It was truly appalling. The dogs must have been stacked in cages in every room, several to a cage. I doubt they were ever walked.
They were saying that in rescue kennels, 1 person is assigned to about 9 dogs to ensure the dogs all get the right amount of attention and care every day. It goes without saying that there's no way 2 people could care for over 200 dogs every day. And to think some of them were wagging their tails at the camera...it's amazing what enduring animals dogs are isn't it?
The owners weren't short of a bob or two judging by their cars!
By pamie o
Date 19.09.03 10:43 UTC
i was distraught last night when watching pictures of these poor souls...my children couldnt understand how these pictures were of the same breed as we have tumbling around the house..
We all want them to be dealt with with the law,but unfortunatley we know that the dogs cant be re-homed until the case is dealt with.
I think this rule should be changed as again the poor animals are the ones dealy the short straw.
I wish i could help in some way..
Will contact some breed rescue to find any information as i in Scotland,or does anyone Know how to be kept up dated
pam
By filbert
Date 19.09.03 10:56 UTC
pamie o i think mattie is keeping us updated on this one!
By Lily Munster
Date 19.09.03 12:24 UTC
The sad thing is there are some "show kennels" who keep their dogs stacked in cages, never seeing the light of day too. Bitches bred from every year to provide the income for the show entries to campaign the decent ones, etc.
saw it on sky news it is disgraceful owners should be put away ans throw away the key poor little dogs
By mattie
Date 27.09.03 07:36 UTC
I have news now on the dogs.
They were found in small cages some where five to a cage some had lost the use of their legs and had to be put down :( :( in spite of the horrific conditions the remaining ones have lovely temperaments.A lot are young bitches.
I also have new also on the possible homing so anyone who contacted me if I dont get to you today please email me back for the phone number.
By mattie
Date 27.09.03 10:05 UTC
I apologise for bumping thais back up but I would like the people who were interested in the poor dogs plight to know they can email me if they wish to know more
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