my parents have a german shepherd bitch (1 year) i originally bought her but had to let my parents have her because max (my yorkie) attacked her twice....previous post........ anyway the dogs haven't seen each other since the gs went to live with parents but they are going on holiday for 1 month soon and need me to have her because there is no-one else and a month is too long for kennels, the advice i need is how do i keep them both happy without fighting, the shepherd is a lovely natured dog with pple and other dogs but max isn't. He will attack her and i'm worried if she retaliates then max will come off the worst, any suggestions??

can you keep them apart by a cunning use of baby gates throughout the house? at least then they will be able to sniff at each other?

if you cant keep them apart all the time , then while your out muzzel the agressive one in the day and at night shut them in different rooms.must stress dont leave muzzel on at night.

I cant belive that you would suggest to muzzle a dog ALL DAY ! and to suggest doing it if you have to go out

Muzzles are not ment to be kept on dogs all day , everyday , infact doing that is downright dangerous , and to suggest muzzling a dog whilst someone goes out is really a very STUPID thing to do :rolleyes: do you really think some of us sailed in on the last banana boat ? :rolleyes:

I would opt for the child safety gates myself !

HELEN.

p.s . Try the child safety gates , if it dont work and you need a break while your parents are on holiday why not kennel your yorkie for a few days at a time? And also you could invest in a crate if you dont feel happy with the kennel idea , NOT to put him in allday i must point out , but at least to give you and your parents dog a break for a few hours each day during the month that they are away.

lol, don't worry helen i wouldn't muzzle max anyway, don't think thats fair when this is his home, i need to stop him getting depressed cos it happened b4 wen i had shepherd, he got v depressed and vets kept him in a week cos they thought he had parvo. So max needs to be kept happy (spoilt brat), hubby thinks i'm worrying over nothing and that max will be ok cos gs is quite big now being 1 yr old, gona let them see each other and lengthen time 2 gether too before parents go, see what happens, stairgates sound a good idea chloe, are they expensive cos will need a few

where on earth did it say all day! please dont put words in my mouth. which is cruel? muzzling a dog while you pop out or leaving a big GS on one side of a baby gate,where he can quite easy jump over to the other side. then maul the poor critter to death , ps you can get mesh muzzels . if youd like to look into it then petmart do them.
And if muzzels are so dangerous why are they still on sale with the instructions. to take of during night. rspca please tell me why there allowed to mis-lable there goods!
Its quite obviouse that the poster cannot kennel the dog . so its seperate rooms and if you cant do that then i have no idea your other alternatives. could you get a freind to look after your yorkie while your out ?

oh mabe some of us did sale in on the last banana boat:O if they cant belive a big gs could jump the gate;)haha

Lady, a dog wearing a muzzle (especially the fabric ones) should never be left unattended. Very dangerous.
:)

Ok lovelylady

If muzzles are so good , and you like using them , can i suggest that you try wearing one ? (whilst your family are out of course!)

Muzzles sell and pet shops will continue to sell them because only SILLY MISINFORMED people BUY THEM !

HELEN.

I wouldent need to use one;) cuz i dont go around hurting people , well helen i sugest you go down that funny farm and demand they take all those the Sjackets off the nutters ,;) oh and they do still use them;)my uncle used to work in one a few yrs back.
did i say i used muzzels? noooo yet again words in my mouth:) i dont my dogs dont bite anything, and obviously you havent seen the new mesh ones they hardly touch the face.
if they are dangerouse then the rspca arent doing a good enough job. and removing them from the shops.
Helen you stick to your baby gates:)but ill feel sorry for that little yorkie when its mauled to death :) enough sed! no further comments:D

LovelyLady

I simply havent got the time or the patience today to argue with people like you on the board - i never suggested that you used THEM - i suggested you TRY wearing one.

There are more important factors going on in my life right now , than to argue with people over WHY muzzles should NOT be used on dogs.

HELEN.

P.S - its a proven FACT that the RSPCA do NOT do their jobs proporly , i have no futher comments on this subject.

I would like to point out that when the yorkie is really aggressive towards the gs, your yorkie can actually attack your gs through the babygates. I know of it happening one time: one dog in a crate and one dog walking by, the dog walking by sniffed the dog in the crate and the last one attack the 'walking' dog through the door of the crate! The door never opened or broke, but the 'walking' dog almost lost his nose!!!

A Yorkie may be able to fit through a baby gate, and a GSD could jump one, a bit of a nuisance, you may be better of using seperate rooms, good luck!

hi

i know you said that putting the GS in a kennel for a month was to long well how about put one in for 2 weeks and the other the following 2 weeks, as a lot of dogs go in for 2 weeks they might be fine. or you could try Yorkie one week GS the next week and then the yorkie and then the Gs for the last week.
i know it can be a pain to do this but my mother in-law has a yorkie and he is bad with all dogs but he is worse with the very big dogs (he thinks that he is a GSD LOL).
baby gates are good but i would think that a yorkie could fit thought one, but you can get the ones with like a cotton mesh instead of bars. sorry don't know how much they cost.
i think that you are doing the right thing by trying to get them to like each other before your mother goes on holidays, all tha best.

Natalie

yesterday they had there 1st meeting together, dad brought shepherd round here, she dragged him through the gates so hard he had to let her go, (he is 72) then she spotted my cat, chased him taking no notice of me what so ever, cat managed to jump on garage roof (phew!). Back door was open so she ran in 100 mile an hour skidded on wood floor, crashed into max's water bowl (water everywhere). I grabbed max and picked him up cos was worried she would break his spine if she landed on him, hubby came home as this was all happening grabbed shepherds lead, calmed her down a bit then i took max over for a sniff, he went very stiff, wouldn't look her in the eye and was growling with lips curled. Decided it wasn't a good idea, so dad took shepherd home. How hectic was that then (lol) it only lasted about 10 mins but i tell you it was stressful, i'm not having her now, its not fair on max or the cat never mind about the rest of us, imagine going through that for a month (no thankyou). :D

Edited to add........ Do you think i'm being selfish??

I wouldent need to use one;) cuz i dont go around hurting people , well helen i sugest you go down that funny farm and demand they take all those the Sjackets off the nutters ,;) oh and they do still use them;)my uncle used to work in one a few yrs back.
do i use muzzels? :) i dont my dogs dont bite anything, and obviously you havent seen the new mesh ones they hardly touch the face.
if they are dangerouse then the rspca arent doing a good enough job. and removing them from the shops.mabe they could stick those warning stickers on them like the fag packets;)
Helen you stick to your baby gates:)
And Jacki:) no your not being selfish, you would have your hands full. i knew baby gates wouldent work thats why i suggested the muzzel as no one can get hurt .apart from your poor cat. well mabe you could get a freind too look after the gs and pop round to check on her at times for your dad.and when they get back mabe you could take both dogs to class's :) hope it all works out
Lady xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

You knew baby gates wouldn't work? How did you know that? Are you psychic? :rolleyes:

Of course baby gates would work... get ones which have a smaller gap and the ones which are door height. In theory, Jacki would only need two, and could probably get them off ebay cheaply, handy to use at all times....and far kinder than a muzzle.

PS - your comments about straightjackets and "nutters" are out of context, insensitive and prove nothing.

Hi Jacki,

No your not being selfish, if you dont think you can cope, dont do it......however i would say taht it was possibly a little foolish to bring the GSD straight into max's house..........a better plan would have been to meet OFF territory, for a walk or something....i know if i was a little nervous and a great big person came barging into my house uninvited, scattering furniture n bowls n cats everywhere, Id growl at them!!!!!

Still, at the end of the day, if ya cant cope you just cant, and it would be silly to try.....i think the idea of putting them in kennels for two weeks each is a good one.

Em

it wasn't an arranged meeting, my dad just turned up. Even so if they had met on neutral ground maybe it wud have been ok maybe not but at the end of the day max would still be the same when on his own territory. I would love to have more than one dog like most pple but it isn't possible with him being as he is :(.

lovelady..... i never did this post for you to throw insults at pple, chloe and helen where only giving there opinion, everyone has there own advice to give and its up to the poster which advice he/she chooses to use :) have a nice day!

ah, fair enough then.... i said about meeting on neutral territory because thats precisely what me and another girl who posts on here did when i took my pup to stay at her house with me....she has two adult dogs, one of whom is fairly fear aggressive, i highly suspect if we had just taken my dog straight in the house, her dog would have not been happy with it.
However, because we met up somewhere neutral, adn because my pup posed no threat to Charlie, it all went very well, after the first half hour or so of sillyness. So well in fact, that later on in the house, when dill accidentally jumped on charlie when he was asleep, all that happened was a suprised woof and half hearted snap, i think if we had just shoved them together charlie could well have hurt Dill.

Em

well jacki im not going to argue about my advice i only suggested a few things , and pointed out that your gs could easy jump baby gates , but id like to point out that i was the one being insulted from the start,being called stupid isent a very nice way to deal with telling someone that they think there wrong, and wheres the banana boats come into anythin??? yes i did stick up for myself ,i think someone else has the attitude problem , and shouldent start calling people things if she dosent like it herself .actully i never did call anyone anything did i:Oend of topic .no further comment,bye
Lady xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Thanks for your advice tho Em, much appreciated :)

Why don't you arrange for the GSD to go in a kennels close by and you can visit and take it for a walk two or three times a week...would solve any guilty feelings.

I actually work at dog kennels every day but my dad won't hear of it, he thinks a month is too long and i tend to agree with him, when dogs in our kennels have been in for 2 weeks they start to get kennel stress although there walked through the day etc it doesn't seem to be enough,good thought tho fillis, thanks :)

hello,
i had this problem a few months ago. taz (18 month staff) is very loving likes all people all dogs,(except a staff that attacked him once- he's neverforgot!).
Mitzy(a 9 year jack russel) also very friendly.
My partners aunt has mitsy she was going away wanted us to have her. we had her once before but we hadn't got taz then.
i was very nervous even though they are both friendly dogs because another dog was coming into taz's home.
Took taz to mitzy's house first- she wasn't keen she barked and growled and snapped (surprised us all).
this only made me more anxious. Taz didn't retaliate- but i was concerned when left alone if mitzy attacked taz and he did retaliate that taz might hurt mitzy.
my partner was adiment that they would be okay, and even if they didn't hit it off straight away with some firm words they would behave.
Anyway we had mitzy- and first two hours were terrible taz wanted to play, mitzy wanted to growl, taz was good though every time she growled he'd back off for a minuite or two. After a couple of hours mitzy wasn't as snappy and was teazing him-she is so tiny she fitted in the gap between the two chairs. taz came to bed as usual. Mitzy slept in kitchen.

The next day it was her who wanted to play - taz who wanted to sleep.

They calmed down. still mitzy had her funny moments and taz knew he'd gone to far and backed off. They slept together on the second night no problems. They ate together and played together. On a walk mitzy must be kept on the lead- if let off she doesn't return, she even let taz hold her lead in his mouth and walk er round the park.

They got on so well together that by the end of the week i was worried about him pining after she'd gone.
And he did!!
He was sulky and miserable and kept searching behind the chair, and he didn't eat for two days. On talking to my partners aunt mitzy was the same, she didn't eat for a few days either, and when she said taz she got all excited.

just wanted to give you a positive!! This was a good ending. But i sympathise with your concerns a month is along time. And two males can be hard to introduce into ones home invironment. personally i would be worried about the baby gates cuz, as someone said earlier they are easy for dogs to jump, if there is something on the other side they want!!

Maybe try another meeting on mutual ground. If it's still the same i think you should ask your parents to find alternative arrangements. It would not only be max who got stressed out it would be all of you!!

good luck xxx