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Topic Dog Boards / General / dog flaps.
- By luvly [gb] Date 10.09.03 21:52 UTC
hey does anyone know of where i can get a dog flap big enough for a cocker , but not too big i dont fancy the thought of people being able to get in threw it. im thinking of taking the cat flap out and replacing it with a doggy flap. hmmm but if they all come that big size i think ill just leave it how it is.
- By mel78 [gb] Date 10.09.03 23:03 UTC
i have seen 3 different size ones at pets at home,i think they have that magnet type of lock so the dog wears a device on the collar that allows the flap to open only to that device
mel:)
- By jacki [gb] Date 10.09.03 23:33 UTC
the device will only stop other animals from entering not humans, you only have to get a skinny burglar who's also a midget :)
- By annieee [gb] Date 11.09.03 07:53 UTC
Hi

We bought a dog door about 8 years ago and its still going strong. It works the same way as 'ranch doors' (restaurant doors) On the back it says 'Plexidor' made in USA. We got ours in the UK. Unfortunately I don't know where from as it was so long ago. I have Dobermanns and it has been perfect for both of them. It is metal and perspex and is very smooth to open. my cats can also get through it.
So can my 21 year old son when he forgets his keys :D
Maybe some other Cdogger can help???
Annie :)
- By sami Date 11.09.03 18:24 UTC
Hi
We have a Plexidor for our cavaliers. Brilliant. If you do a search on here for "Plexidor" , all the details of where to get one will come up.

Got ours from a nice guy at Crufts years ago, and we go and say hello to him every year!! Our youngest pup taught herself to use it within a week of living here, just by following the others.
(Ours had a steel plate shutter for if we go away, and a very strong lock on it, if we want to lock it shut. )

Sami
- By LJS Date 11.09.03 08:02 UTC
Do a search on Staywell.( sorry can't do the link as typing with one hand as have a baby in my arms !!)

One warning though dog flaps that can let anybody, even a small child will invalidate your house insurance!

Lucy
- By Stacey [gb] Date 11.09.03 09:39 UTC
Lucy,

It is not true that home insurance is invalidated because of dog flaps. It depends on the insurance company and the policy.

It is really a nonsense anyway, every house has windows big enough for a burglar to enter. All they have to do is break a window - and it can be done without making any noise -- and enter.

Stacey
- By LJS Date 11.09.03 09:49 UTC
Stacey

I would be really interested if you can tell me of any insurance companies that do! :)

I did quite an extensive search when we got our flap fitted and found nobody would insure the house unless the room that leads into the house is fitted with proper security locks which we have ! :) Not many people will have this unless the have a different door fitted or the flap is a proper secured flap which most are not, not even with the locks and magnetic collars.

Lucy
- By annieee [gb] Date 11.09.03 11:38 UTC
Hi
This is really a big worry. I wasn't aware of this. Does that mean that everybody who has a dog flap has invalid house insurance! What a waste of money. I never noticed such a clause when I sorted it out. I think lots of people will be unaware of this - if it's true!!
Annie
- By LJS Date 11.09.03 11:43 UTC
I would check with your insurers.

If Stacey though can get back with the names of an insurer that will do it that would be great !!

I checked with quite a few insurers and also got my insurance brokers to do a search and they couldn't come up with any :(

Lucy
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 11.09.03 11:47 UTC
Hi Annie,
My in-laws had a dogflap, and their insurers told them that unless the flap led into a room that was separated from the rest of the house by a lockable external-quality door, their contents insurance would be invalid. So check your small-print.
- By Stacey [gb] Date 12.09.03 07:28 UTC
Lucy,

We were insured with Norwich Union and dog flaps are not a problem. We dropped them this year because they raised the rates (we had lots of claims - water leaks, tree roots in drains, etc.) and are switching to Eagle Star. Neither asked the question on applying for insurance and neither policy mentions dog flaps in the fine print.

Insurance companies try to get out of paying claims any way they can and they will dream up anything they can think of to invalidate a claim. I believe that you would have a case with the insurance ombudsman against the insurer if you house was robbed and you could show that the burglar did not come in through the dog flap.

Stacey
- By LJS Date 12.09.03 16:23 UTC
Hi Stacey.

I would be so careful as insurers will not pay out if you have left a window open and so it will be the same as a dog flap. They don't specifically ask when you take insurance out as you are supposed to declare it I think when you agree to the policy of anything that may put the house at risk to burglery.

As JG says unless the room leading into the house house a secure lock on it will invalidate your insurance !! I know I wouldn't risk it and I doubt if it went to an insurance Ombudsman you would have a leg to stand on :(

It would be difficult to prove that the burgler didn't come through the dog flap unless you had CCTV !!:D

Lucy
- By Erin [gb] Date 11.09.03 11:04 UTC
We replaced our cat flap (which my yorkie already used!) with a small staywell dog-flap which fits a dog upto 14 inches shoulder height. Its supposed to be suitable for a full-grown cavalier, thats why we replaced it because i had visions of coming home to find lewy, my cav pup, wedged in the cat flap after trying to follow buffy out! They also do a medium sized one that fits upto 18 inches shoulder height. I got mine from an internet site after searching on google, but i can't remember the name of the company, i'll see if i can find it when i get home!

Erin
- By luvly [gb] Date 11.09.03 14:40 UTC
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- By luvly [gb] Date 11.09.03 14:40 UTC
my cockers quite small mabe a little bit biger then a cav . ill have to do a search, my room has another lockable double glazed door so the insurance should be ok, its just the thought of someone coming into it i dident like but i v much doubt if i got one the same size as my cocker anyone could get in. :d thanks folks ;)
- By Moonmaiden Date 11.09.03 15:46 UTC
My cavaliers use our cat flap with no problema
- By jackyjat [gb] Date 11.09.03 16:52 UTC
Does anyone know the position of insurance with cat flaps? How many of us have those??!
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 11.09.03 16:57 UTC
As I understand it, you can have problems insurance-wise if the catflap is on the same side of the door as the handle and lock - ie not on the hinge-side. Apparently it's theoretically possible for a supple person to stick their arm through the catflap and unlock the door :rolleyes: Can't see it myself, but as we all know, an insurance company will jump at any excuse not to pay out.
- By luvly [gb] Date 11.09.03 19:26 UTC
I must have a really small cat flap..haha and as for the sticking the arm threw the cat flap and unlocking . the burgular must have one bloody long arm:D haha!! sily fings
Topic Dog Boards / General / dog flaps.

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