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Clearly it would be wicked and cruel to leave a dog alone for that length of time. You would have to make alternative arrangements for its care for those days - perhaps staying with a (100% guaranteed reliable!) friend, or going into kennels for that time.
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Errrrm, surely you dont need to ask?? 14 hours is a ridiculously long time, I wouldnt even leave my cat that long.
I really dont think that a dog is at all an option for you. Perhaps later down the line, if 1 or both of your hours are reduced, or if you went to part time etc...but that long would kill a dog let alone a puppy. It would never see you :(
Even if it went into kennels for that time....what is the point in owning it, when you are never going to see it?

Sorry, probably not what you want to hear.
steph
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Oh dear they didn't like what you said :-D

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Oh well, never mind, eh? Why ask a question if you don't want to hear the answer?
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Hi...

Didn't see the question before it was deleted but can work it out from the replies.

Leaving a dog alone for long periods of the day isn't good, and for pups a real no no.

However... give the poster credit for asking the question. Clearly they have little knowledge of pet ownership responsibilities, that isn't their fault - they tried to compensate for that by asking the question so they would NOT be cruel.

Probably, even almost certainly, right now dog ownership isn't a real option. However a little more gentleness and trying to understand WHY the poster took the trouble to come here and post would imo be a good thing.

I know you guys love your dogs, so please take this post as it's meant... nurturing is good in humans as well as dogs.

As I said to me sounds like a no go, but maybe some wiser heads could suggest a path to a compromise... waiting till there was more time spent at home before owning was just such a suggestion. Maybe they have neighbours they are very friendly with that are home all the time who could become part of an extended dog family... I don't know, not soemthing I would do and maybe not viable, guys here have the knowledge and experience to hopefully pose and answer such suggestions. Maybe talk about how long a pup/dog could be left and what age that changes if ever.. which breeds are more self sufficient.

I have said this because I feel it was a genuine cry for help, and that a visitor that comes to ask a question for the benefit of our doggie friends may be put off asking questions because they are worried about being embarrassed.

My only credentials are that I am human, and care about dogs and other humans - hope you take this post as it is meant.

Regards Dave

Hi Dave,
No offence meant (or taken!) but you can see from the replies that exactly that kind of suggestion (kennelling, reliable sitter, waiting for a change of circumstances etc) was in fact made .....
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Dave
there are occasionally trolls on the Board and although I didnt see the original post I do wonder why the poster deleted the original message and has not come back t reply to any suggestions made ??

The original post was about occasionally leaving a dog alone for 14 hours ....

Maybe the post was deleted because the poster was embarrassed or upset, if it was not a genuine post i don't believe the poster would have bothered to remove it.

But why delete it when nobody was rude to them? The replies are both very reasonable in the circumstances.
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ashamed.

Good question JG, the people that aren't genuine seem to like to answer the replies they get, does that make sense? I hope so! Quite strange.

Please come back and explain riesue.

Hi Jeangenie...

Your post, and some others were what I would call supportive and gentle and an opening for more info to give further help and steer in the right direction, like I said almost certainly away from dog ownership in present circumstances.

I am just suggesting similar tolerence and understanding is a good thing. Someone isn't stupid because they haven't been given the knowledge/education/understanding previously. Asking questions and seeking guidance is a sign of the opposite in my opinion... stupidity sets in when good advice from the learned is ignored.

It's obvious to me that you Jeangenie and some other posters understand that. Why was the post deleted... we will probably never know, safe to assume that the orig poster was upset... if they feel ashamed as someone suggested then that's really what my posts are about, that is the last thing they should feel. Imprtantly others who need help should not feel worried about posting in case they are made to feel the same.

Regards Dave

Someone posts and asks if its ok to leave a dog for 14 hours. It is then suggested (in a nice way) that it would be cruel to do so. Poster either feels embarrassed or ashamed for asking such a question in the first place. Obvious really. Perhaps once the obvious was pointed out they realised that its just common sense... i don't know...

You have already agreed they received informative and constructive responses, then deleted the post anyway, so how else could any of this be phrased without that happening? I'm just not sure what your point is? :)

Hi...

Posts are without voice tone, and can be easily mis-interpreted.

If you start by telling someone that they are a bad person, or implying it, OR they read it as personal attack, any advice that you follow up with will disappear on the wind.... my point is this.... Very likely any PERCEPTION by the poster that a reply was about the act could have been taken to be about themselves. That would be enough to upset them... or you wouldn't it?

To further emphasise my point and don't take this personally but you say....

'Obvious really. Perhaps once the obvious was pointed out they realised that its just common sense... '

I'm sorry it isn't common sense, and isn't obvious. Ok to me and you it is... but to someone that has never owned, been around or had any experience with dogs or maybe even animals it is not. In fact there are many parts of the world where it would be obvious and common sense [to them] that the way we look after dogs is plain stupid. That is their perception.

Key to me is that the original post was deleted. If it hadn't been I would probably have read and surfed on... I asked myself why it had been deleted, and reread the replies carefully. It isn't the only explanation, but it is possible that the poster took at least some of the posts as personal criticism isn't it?

Thus my original post.

Regards Dave

Hi

Yes, I agree...I do think the poster took it as personal critism - but, my post to you was that you originally said that the respnses were informative and not inflammatory...so you couldn't understand why it was deleted, you then said that perhaps it was deleted because the poster felt upset..so infact, you were actually agreeing that the poster could have deleted is as they felt it was personal criticism/ashamed/embarrassed....but now you are saying the replies could have caused it I guess, what I am trying to say, is that you were contradicting yourself in your original post :) ;)

My point "Perhaps once the obvious was pointed out they realised that its just common sense..." actually agrees with you - the poster realised it was common sense once they read their replies, so therefore deleted the post...

I know, splitting hairs and all that :)

C

Heh ;)

From my first post....

"Probably, even almost certainly, right now dog ownership isn't a real option. However a little more gentleness and trying to understand WHY the poster took the trouble to come here and post would imo be a good thing. "

I could have been more direct in what I said but hoped that paragraph with the rest of my post made my point. it obviously didn't which just goes to show ;). I didn't want to start a flame or attack well intentioned people. I said that some were constructive, and they were - some were not, and some were constructive and emotive at the same time depending how they were read. I never said all posts, I used the phrase 'some pome ... or some other... if memory serves right, and that I think was in my 2nd post.

It isn't I don't understand why the post was deleted, nor did I say that, I don't know why - You may well be right about the common sense realisation reason.. you may equally be wrong - they may just have deleted because they felt they were looked at as being a bad person. Without a reply from the poster we don't know. If I am in a group of 1 that thinks this is a possibility and could discourage other posters then my posts should be ignored because they have no value.

We are arguing sematics here, I stand by what i originally said... the interpretation of some of the posts, and language could cause the wrong impression, maybe I am wrong and taking rubbish - and if so, like I said, my posts have no value.

I do agree with you that we are splitting hairs ;).

Regards Dave