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By dylans
Date 15.08.03 14:30 UTC
does anybody know if 2 male bullmastiffs can live together happily.we have randel who is 10 months old,he lived happily with our 4 year old staffie who died recently.we would like to buy a puppy to keep him company but wanted another bullmastff.
hi not sure on mastiffs but they do say dont get to dogs some sex in my breeds,i think it really depends on what your other dogs like.
By sophie
Date 15.08.03 15:16 UTC
No I would certainly not have 2 male Bullmastiffs together.They may get along whilst they are pups, but they won't once they are adult.If you want to get another companion for him then I would suggest getting a bitch and then have one of them neutured. It will be much safer.
By Lollie
Date 02.09.03 12:42 UTC
Hi, just seen your message about 2 male bullmastiffs, (been on holiday and no computer.)
We have two male bullies and they get along fine. They are litter brothers and apart from 3 weeks when they were puppies (long story) they have never been apart, we have had no problems with them, it has not been easy and we have been on our guard with them over the years (they are now 41/2years old), waiting for something to happen but everything has been fine. We also have a bitch who is 21/2yrs old and she has recently had a litter of puppies, of which we have kept another bitch. Even with all this the boys have been brilliant.
What i can say is neither of me boys have been used at stud, (my choice) i think things may have been different if one of them had been used.
We also free run the dogs early in the morning when no-one is around and they have a great time.
Hope this helps.
Karen.
By ferret
Date 02.09.03 13:06 UTC
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By jannine
Date 02.09.03 14:13 UTC
Hi
I currently own 2 male boxer dogs and they get on really well! I don't think anybody can say for sure, it depends on the temprement of your current boy.
I have to say that I disagree with your comment on responsible breeders not selling 2 boys to the same home, I got both my boxer's from a highly responsible breeder who saw no problems with us having 2 boys together! I am even getting a male dogue de bordeaux next year and the breeder I spoke to said she can't see there being any problems with 3 boys together.
I have heard that there can be problems when 2 bitches live together, but having never owned a bitch and can't really comment!
Just my opinion! (don't want to offend anybody!)
By staffie
Date 02.09.03 18:32 UTC
Please tell me which Bordeaux breeder advised it would be OK to keep 3 males together???
By jannine
Date 03.09.03 12:16 UTC
Hi
I don't think that it would be fair to start naming breeders but I did get there name from the champdogs list and they have over 3o years experience breeding dogue de bordeaux and rottie's.
Personally I have never had a dogue de bordeaux but would really like one and I might decide to get a bitch after everything that has been said. I posted a few days ago asking fo information about the dogue de bordeaux but nobody replied so I had to go of what the breeder told me. I have also ordered a book about the dogue an it says that males can be kept together happily as long as there is a big age difference? Not sure who or what to believe now!
By staffie
Date 03.09.03 14:18 UTC
Hi Jannine
Some of the people on here own and show Dogue de Bordeaux and are experienced in the breed and at ensuring dogs are never left together unsupervised.
I am one of these people and I also breed Staffordshire bull terriers.
I would never leave 2 of them together unsupervised, apart from my male and female bordeaux who live together like an old married couple!
My male bordeaux and, when I had him, my male staffie hated the sight of each other. We were always very careful and they never came into direct contact. Having these breeds makes you all the more aware of what COULD happen if a door was left open etc :-(
My bordeaux get on great with my female staffs but still would not leave them alone as a little squabble with any bull breeds can turn into a full blown fight! Like people have said no one would want to witness that and seperate them!
You would be much better off following your second idea and going for a female bordeaux :-)
When you were with the males they would probably appear fine but like people have said that would not always be the case :-(
I can honestly say I am really shocked and disappointed that a Bordeaux breeder would have given you the advice 3 males would be fine. It is far better to be safe than sonny :-)
By ferret
Date 02.09.03 21:36 UTC
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By KJF
Date 04.09.03 07:54 UTC
I would be interested to know whether the consensus on here is that no two male dogs should be kept together, OR just two males of particular breeds ie bull breeds?
Thanks.

Well I have 6 males & one spayed bitch & never have any problems. They all live in the house, but they are not bull or terrier breeds

It does very much depend on breed. In some dopg dominant breeds two of the same sex can rarely be kept together without friction. In others it is just males that hate each other. In others males are fine as long as there are no entire bitches in the household to cause rivalry, and then there are some breeds that are so easy going as to mix with whatever sex or combination in their homes.

The fates smiled on me when I fell for my breed, then, Brainless! All the breeders I know have 'mixed packs' who all live happily together, so they certainly must come under your easy-going category! Phew! I don't think I could cope with the hassle of antagonistic dogs. Life's too short.
:)

I know plenty of people who keep entire males (including stud dogs) together with no problems, so maybe it's just certain breeds?
:)
By keisha
Date 02.09.03 22:27 UTC
jannine
all i can say is whoever told you a bordeaux would be fine with two boxer's male's,does'nt know what there taking about.yes your boxer's get on fine, and initially your bordeaux puppy will fit in fine .but once he mature's and decide's he'd like to be boss , you've got trouble.
we at the moment have a five year old GSD,a one year DDB,both dog's and at no time would we let these dog's together, they can see each other through the fence and we have grumble's from both,god know's what would happen if we let these two particular dog's together,we also have a dog puppy DDB,who at the present time get's on well with both the adult male's ,but we know this wont last for ever,Can't beleive a DDB breeder would even consider selling you a male pup,irresponsible is all i can say .Timebomb waiting to go off.
Do you honestly think you could separate and 100lb+DDB and one or even two of your boxer's,dont think so , do you?
By jannine
Date 03.09.03 12:48 UTC
Hi
You said what kind of breeder would sell me a dogue de bordeaux, you have just said that you have 3 male dogs who don't get on in your house, two of which are male dogue de bordeaux's?
Who sold you your puppies?
By keisha
Date 03.09.03 18:19 UTC
HI jannine,
maybe i should explain my situation better, i myself breed bordeaux ,and have enough land to cater for the amount of male's i have on my premise's,all the male's are kenneled separatly,but i would never let anyone have one of my males who had another dog in the house i would advise them to take a bitch,especially if the dog's live in door's.i am a reponsible breeder ,and never ever would i leave my male's unsupervised, glad to hear your thinking of a bitch,but then you could have problem's with your two male boxer's when she come's into season etc.. my advice is to think long and hard before you decide to buy another puppy what ever breed or sex.
Staffie : truth hurt's sometime's,
By staffie
Date 04.09.03 15:38 UTC
:D
By paxo
Date 02.09.03 15:08 UTC

I certainly wouldn't keep 2 male Bullmastiffs together. or 2 bitches together. In the 30 years that i have had bullies I know through my experience that it is a big risk to take, even though you may get the odd exception to the rule in general o would say don't do it.I know of people who have tried to keep 2 of the same sex together with disastrous results.Have you thought about trying to separate 2 full grown bullmastiffs when they get into a fight!!! I'll say no more.
By corso girl
Date 02.09.03 16:29 UTC
Hi debbs, please be very careful here, i have never been able to keep males together once they got to 6 months i have to part them the same goes for bitch's as well they are worse they fight to the death just because Karen hasn't had a fight ( yet) doesn't mean that it wont happen, Karen is very aware that it could happen, but i could not live with that fear. i would say dont do it unless you have kennels.
By dylans
Date 02.09.03 17:40 UTC
hi corso girl , ive been taking all this advice in about a friend for randel he seems so lonley and sad ive been thinking about amale puppy since dylan died,ive spoken to a couple of breeders who have said if both boys have good tempraments ishould not have problems,but now i dont know what to do,randel and lola dont get on very well [lolas doing] they tolerate each other thats about it. but if idid get a puppy i thought ishould do it soon before randel gets to old to except it.while on the supject of randel do you know of anything i could put on his elbows,he has scabs on them where hes been laying out side[stoped him doing it now]thanks debb
By Lollie
Date 03.09.03 07:26 UTC
I have to reply, i know i have been very lucky but it can be done, its not easy, i never said i was. You just have to be aware that problems can occur, and you have the means to cope with it when it does.
We do have a small kennel block, each dog has it's own kennel and run with a large run outside.
All the dogs are fed in there own kennels, so there is no chance of a fight over food.
When Lollie is in season she comes back into the house, so the boys don't see her, so again no chance of a fight there.
these are just common sense things and it as worked for us. As i said in my first post the boys are now 41/2 years old and so far so good.
It is not something to just go into without thinking about very carefully.
Karen.
By ferret
Date 03.09.03 11:48 UTC
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By keisha
Date 03.09.03 18:21 UTC
well said ferret,also the male bordeaux is know to be very dominant
By Lollie
Date 04.09.03 07:04 UTC
I do have experience with the breed, don't have a go at people you don't no!!
If you read my post, i am not telling anyone to go ahead and do it, just to think very carefully.
If you wish to come and see my bullies and the way they are please do, but don't criticise when you don't know me or my situation.
Karen.
By corso girl
Date 04.09.03 08:36 UTC
I do have to say i dont know how Karen does it but her two males do seem to get on and she is very aware of what could happen but her males are very laid back not a bit like mine which are all ways on there toes and ready but then mine have been used at stud, but i still stand by what i say it is not the norm for male Bullmastiffs to be together and i have had 23 years of this breed, well done Karen.
By robert23
Date 03.09.03 01:11 UTC
i dont really see any problems in it to be honest but i dont have any experience with bullys i would have said go for it as long as you seperate them 4 feeding and as long as you arent thinkin of getting a bitch while were on the subject got a new german shep bitch and also have two labs a bitch and a dog and there is a lot of tension between them i honestly think it would b ok though but thats just my opinion
hope i have been of help
robert
By corso girl
Date 03.09.03 07:41 UTC
You just said it you know nothing about bull breeds---- and now you are saying that you have tension between your dogs well you will have more when they get into a huge fight.
By pynadeth
Date 03.09.03 08:53 UTC
bullbreeds are rare for 2 males to get on together.
happens with a very submissive male and dominant male that would always keep the other in check.but ive never been able to keep 2 males together.just my thoughts.
By Candy
Date 04.09.03 12:36 UTC
Hi, just thought I would add to this, I have six Bullmastiffs split between two homes, each house has two dogs and a bitch. The males in my house have to be seperated when nobody is home, they have had a fight ( not the worst I have seen but very nasty ) one is 7yo and the other is coming up for three both are neutered and cannot be trusted 100% together. The dogs in my partners house are Mother Father and Son they are all together all of the time and never seperated unless the bitch is in season, the males are 8yo and coming up for 3 they have always been fine until the last season when one came home a bit too early and there was a bit of trouble no blood drawn but upsetting all the same.
I am not hugely experienced I have only been in the breed 5 years but considering the experiences I have had I will never be 100% about have two or more males together in the same household, I am constantly aware that at any point there may be a time when they choose to challenge each other. I agree with what has already been said, having had to try to seperate two adult Bullmastiffs whilst they are fighting is a very scarey, frightening and upsetting experience which can sometimes be damn near impossible.
I just thought I would share my opinion.
By paxo
Date 04.09.03 14:48 UTC

If someone asks me can 2 male Bullmastifs "live happily together" in the same household then the answer is still no. Living "happily together" on the same premises in their own quarters i,e kennels is slightly different. With a good kennel management & regime then there is no need for it to become a problem. its easier to prevent a problem from happening than to try to rectify the problem after it has happened.I also agree that a reputable breeder would not sell 2 puppies of of the same sex in these sort of breeds together as pets to live in a household
By Candy
Date 04.09.03 15:35 UTC
I agree, although i'm in that position of having two males at home now it is less than ideal. We will have kennels soon which will make things a lot easier and happier.
By jacki
Date 04.09.03 18:07 UTC
my friend has 3 dogs, all intact,of various ages and they are all rescue, 1 collie, 1 gsd and the other is a mixed breed, they all get on fine together. Near where i live there is a lady who recue's dogs from being pts and she puts them together sometimes up to 5 in one kennel (she hasn't much room) they all get on fine too, is it just certain breeds which fight if living together?
By pynadeth
Date 04.09.03 19:12 UTC
i can only talk about molosser type dogs and i know you couldnt do this with molossers.i think other breeds are more easy going and with dominance they would back down without it ending up in a fight to the death in the case of some molosser breeds.
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