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- By waitingforpups [us] Date 18.08.03 21:32 UTC
I took my dog to meet her male friend two weeks ago. As far as I know the two only attempted to make puppy's one time. We are sure she was in standing heat though. She has since came out of heat and is acting strange......she is not eating as much, and is getting sick, not allot, but enough to make me think she could be having puppy's soon, or maybe even sick.
This is my first time breeding and would like to know if there are any signs I should be looking for.

Thanks :o)
- By Brainless [gb] Date 20.08.03 19:54 UTC
You said tried to make puppies. di you actually succeed in getting a mating?

She could be showing some signs of hormonal changes or it could be a sign of the womb infection Pyometra which occurs within 8 weeks of a season.

If you are at all worried take her to your vet
- By waitingforpups [us] Date 25.08.03 01:20 UTC
Yes they were able to mate, but I am not sure if it was successfull. She seems to be better now though she is not getting sick. It has been three weeks this week, since the mating. Are there any signs I should be looking for ?

They were only able to mate once and seemed un-interested after that. I am sure that also decreases the likelihood of this being a succecfull mating.

Any insight you can give would be helpfull

Thank you ;-)
- By westie lover [gb] Date 25.08.03 08:26 UTC
Hi, I would buy "The book of the Bitch" BY Kay White and Jim Evans asap. Its the bitch owner/breeder's bible and will answer just about any breeding related question. Things do go wrong sometimes and you need to know how to recognise potential problems. Take the best possible care of her by reading this book cover to cover - :-)
- By waitingforpups [us] Date 25.08.03 21:25 UTC
Thank you :-)
- By Brainless [gb] Date 26.08.03 01:11 UTC
I am currently expecting a litter from a rather reluctant bride (was blood tested for right time) and only allowed the opne mating. She looks to be carrying an average size litter.

Her mother had a litter of 9 to an only mating, and her mother had 7 on a single mating, and only 4 on her last litter despite being mated several times over a 5 day period!

It is all down to how many ripe eggs were around to be fertilized by the millions of sperm.
- By gavin7 [gb] Date 26.08.03 18:13 UTC
I have a Sharp-pei male and I would like to breed him with another owners female Sharp-pei but I would just like to know how it all works e.g. does the female owner let us have the pick of the litter thats if she was to get pregnant or does the female owner offer a cash amount.
I would be gratefull for any insight anyne can give
Thanks
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 26.08.03 18:22 UTC
Before you start breeding dogs I think you need to read up a bit more about your breed. Nobody is going to take you seriously if you can't spell its name right!!
- By Lokis mum [gb] Date 26.08.03 18:24 UTC
It's not just a case of him humping away and you picking up the dosh or a puppy - are you prepared to be responsible for the resulting puppies? Are you prepared to find homes for them? Are you prepared to take back an 8month old puppy that won't behave for its new owner? Are you prepared to take back a 5 year old dog whose owners can no longer keep it because of changed circumstances?

That's how it should work!

Margot
- By gavin7 [gb] Date 26.08.03 18:51 UTC
I am concerned about all the pups, but I would assume that it would be the responsibility of the females owner to provide homes for them, I guess it would be the owners problem if his 8 month old puppy is not behaving, he bought the pup he should of thought about it before and besides theirs loads of training books and I also assume that after five years and there was a change of circumstances it would be the owners problem to sort out. (i could have left the country within five years)
thats how I think it would work

"their responsibilities their problems"

Gav
- By Moonmaiden Date 26.08.03 18:55 UTC
If your dog is the sire you are 50 % responsible for any puppies produced fromthe moment of conception to the day they pass away
- By archer [gb] Date 26.08.03 19:19 UTC
You're exactly the sort of person we advise people NOT to buy a puppy from.A responsible breeder is concerned for the pups his/her dog or bitch produce for the whole of their life!!!
Archer
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 26.08.03 19:28 UTC
No, Gavin, that's how puppy farmers operate! A person whose dog has sired/given birth to puppies is responsible for them for life! It's not a case of "out of sight, out of mind". Not if you're a responsible person, that is.
- By gavin7 [gb] Date 26.08.03 19:58 UTC
Ok I understand what all of you are saying, the female owner wants you to be as responsibile as they are for the pups. If you read my first thread it says "I would just like to KNOW how it all WORKS" well thanks to all those who replied in a better manner than others (archer, Jeangenie)
- By Moonmaiden Date 26.08.03 20:40 UTC
Actually it's the stud dogs owner who should want to be 50 % respnsible I was when I had active stud dogs.

If I hadn't been in a position to do so my dogs would never have been used
- By archer [gb] Date 27.08.03 06:28 UTC
Sorry if you consider my answer rude but from your post you sound like you think its a case of 'let your dog mate,collect your money-job done' which is exactly the kind of attitude which produces unhealthy unwanted pups.A good breeder health checks their dog(not just a visit to the vet!!) and then a stud dog owner only allows a bitch to mate with his dog if she has good test results and her lines are complimentary to his dogs.
Please answer me a question-why do you want to use him?? Is he a stunning example of the breed??or is it that you think it would make him happy and content.A dog that is only used once or twice is likely to become very frustrated and his personality will change.
Shar-pei are not a numerically strong breed so the chances of him having a good stud career are very low.People who want to breed their bitch should want to use the best stud for their bitch so why use your boy when they could use a dog who has won well and has good test results.If you are serious then get him shown and health checked and then be prepared for the responsibilities of your boys pups-which is what you should want not what the bitches owner should request..
Archer
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 27.08.03 07:21 UTC
Gavin, I'm sorry you thought my post was rude. We can only reply to what is actually written, and you worded your post to make yourself sound like an uncaring, money-grabbing person, who knows very little about his breed, but who wants to exploit his dog and not accept any responsibility for the resulting puppies. So I found your post equallly offensive.
- By Sue H Date 27.08.03 19:39 UTC
Gavin, There are currently no tests recommended for shar pei before they are used for breeding. However, in the US it is highly unusual for a breeder to use their males without having them OFA'd or Prelimmed first. I'm not sure why this isn't recommended by the breed club in this country, but it never has been. Your male should really be a potential valuable asset to the breed, what bloodlines does he have? Stud enquiries are few & far between in this breed, & i probably turn down more females than i let my males be used on. You have to know your males strengths & weaknesses, & ask yourself would he actually improve the breed if he was used on the right female. Every breeding should be done with the goal of improving on the parents, otherwise there is no point having puppies at all. I sell anything i don't keep for show, into pet homes on spay/neuter contracts, this enables me to keep a check on all my bloodlines & know exactly who has them & whether they are being used in the right way. Not trying to lecture you here, but there are enough 'pet' puppies out there without adding more.
- By biocan [mx] Date 27.08.03 04:00 UTC
This is veeeeery sad. :(
I had to put down a very dear rottweiler almost a year ago, due to sever hip dysplasia. He received medications, acupuncture, herbs, laser treatment...everything, but then the pain was just too much, so we didn't want him to suffer any more. It broke my heart, and all my family was in tears after saying good bye...I still miss him like hell. If it weren't because of irresponsible "breeders" this just shouldn't happen! :(
- By Lokis mum [gb] Date 27.08.03 06:32 UTC
I was not rude to you - I wanted to point out something that isn't obvious at first - and to make sure you realised that as it takes two dogs to make puppies, it takes two owners to take FULL responsibilities for those puppies!

As you said, you wanted to know all that was involved: so I told you.

Sorry if I appeared to be rude - actually I wanted to make sure that you really understood all that it involves:D

Margot
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