I was out walking ollie with my others down a old road which leads to the old open cast where my dogs go swimming when we saw a man coming over the fence on a bike asked him nicely to wait while i put ollie on the lead and he sped past on his bike hitting Cassie in the process Ollie who hates bikes started to bark at the bloke on the bike and then the stupid **** kicked him and ollie turned and bit him. Bloke rang police who came and spoke to the bloke and said they would come to have a word in 10mins but never came. The bloke says he is a farmers son surely knows collies and bikes don't mix.
Is there anythink we casn do and whats going to happen to Ollie

Without witnesses there is not much the police can do . Its his word against yours .
If he kicked your dog then of course its going to bite him !!!
You just have to make sure that the police are aware he kicked your dog for no reason .
good luck :)

I would definately say everything that you have just told us on here. Don't leave anything out, even mention about him hitting Cassie and you asked him very nicely ect ect.

Hope everything is ok :) Some people are not worth the dirt on the road

ttfn :)

I'm afraid legal wise, it was your dog that was dangerously out of control in a public place. Wouldn't think it would go that far though unless the dog gave a serious bite.
Dawn.

What a horrible thing to happen to you and your dogs! This guy was so rude and cruel to kick Ollie for barking. Is Cassie OK? When the police come I think all you can do is tell the truth and have the dogs on best behaviour - I would think about putting a muzzle out and say you're considering it.( u don't have to it's just to show willing) Is there anyone who can give a kind of character reference for Ollie - maybe someoen from the rescue ? In Scotland they get 2 bites before anything happens to the dog. LOL

I have sat and thought about what *I* would do if I were cycling past a loose dog and it began barking at me and , presumably , chasing me. I am a dog lover ..but *I* don't know whether that dog would be safe or not .....I could not say for sure that I wouldn't be scared witless and lash out at it.

The dog is out of control .....it should not be able to chase after anyone on a bike ..if you *know* he doesn't like bikes then you have to make sure either you don't walk him off lead were there is the possibility of him seeing one , OR you keep him on the lead.

Whilst I sympathise with you ..I think that I agree with Dawn B ....if this went to court I have a feeling that it would be you and the dog that came off worse.

Melody

Similar happened here a while ago with a guy and his GSD. He got this rescue GSD who got more and more aggressive and protective (they were very badly matched), and to top it off he actually lives on a canal boat. Anyway, the dog took a dislike for cyclists and lunged at someones leg, missed (fortunately) but bit the light on the bike. The owner gave him the money for the light, but the cyclist still went to the police, who got involved, and advised that the GSD owner take the dog back to the kennels before something a lot worse happened (basically, the owner was left with no choice but to take the dog back).

You can't allow your dog to chase a bike - not with all the anti-dog feeling. You have to think what would have happened if it had been a child. If my daughter had cycled past and your dog had gone to chase her, then I would have done whatever it took to make sure she wasn't bitten. I can't trust Will not to chase bikes - so I walk him where there are no bikes. Sorry :(

My sympathy is with Ollie, but legally an unleashed dog is an uncontrolled dog and you are at fault. My Cairn goes crazy over bikes as well, she wants to chase and catch up with the cyclist for a game and a smooch. She does not bark, she cries and squeaks and clearly is not a threat.

Lots of cyclists and runners are afraid of dogs, for good reason in many cases. I would never let my Cairn off lead because I could not trust her not to accidently cause a cycler harm. As it is I dread seeing the postman on his bike when we are out walking because it means I am constantly reeling her in on the flexilead and having to watch my back in case he comes up from behind me.

Sorry about the situation. I hope the guy thinks about his own actions and decides to forget about the entire incident.

Stacey

What annoys me is that you asked him to wait nicely, and he still came on and knocked one of your dogs over, then kicked the other one who was simply barking. At no stage do you state that either or your dogs chased the bike at any time, so that has to be in your favour.

The man incited your dogs and treated both you and them with no respect, in fact he deliberately knocked into your first dog. In my opinion this man acted in a threatening manner, cycling into and then kicking your dogs - but as for the legal position i am not sure.

There is a very good solicitor called Trevor Cooper who deals with this sort of thing, i expect someone will know of him and have an address if you feel it is needed.

Lindsay

If the worst comes to the worst you could argue that the dog was protecting you from a threatening person - the cyclist certainly sounds as if he was behaving in an aggressive manner.

Yeah - thats fair enough - there are a lot of people out there who seem to provoke dogs :( Personally, I prefer to stay well out of the way of the general public when I'm out with the dogs.

No police have been to the house or anything we have heard nothing the pedal of the bike also caught my dad on the leg my dogs didn't chase the bike and just started barking as he was coming towards them a speed Cassie was fine just a bit stunned but i think i would be.
We rarely see other people down there let alone bikes as it is not a public footpath and i went and had a word with the farmer who owns the road and the field around it and he says he has no problem with us being down there. I will let you know what happens
Hannah

Sounds as if you could be making an assault charge against him, and it could well be the police have told him that and you will hear no more. I would write down what happened before you forget and get your Dad to do the same. Just in case.

So it's not a "public place"? That's in your favour. And you have permission to be there? Another weapon in your armoury.
:)

It's just we don't want to try making a complaint as if we throw something at this bloke then he could take it further with Ollie and i really want to do what is best for ollie

Yep, I'd lay low too, but make a note incase it all kicks off at a later date.

Thanx to you all for the advise
Hannah Ollie Tess Cassie Hazel N Oscar

I sympathise! My collie chases bikes and joggers and even barks at men. The first time she barked at a man it caught me off guard (as she had never done it before) and so she was off lead. She was only 9 months old and as a result recall was not 100% perfect. So the man kicked out at her twice!! We still see him now walking around the villiage and even though megan is 18 months now she still barks at him. I know it is a reflex response to kick out but it makes the dog more defensive anyway so is counter productive. The worst part about your situation is that you warned him and politely asked him to wait, but as everyone says, i suspect that a court would rule in his favour. Its so unfair! It doesn't sound as if he is going to do anything about it as i think he probably realises that he wasn't the innocent party.

We just walked Ollie and others down the road and saw the same bloke and he didn't mutter a word so i reakon he was told to drop it as for Ollie he looked rather scared when he saw the bike and went straitr behind my legs which i suppose is a good thing