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Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / Oscar not wanting to learn
- By cassie N ollie [gb] Date 11.08.03 21:35 UTC
i have a 1yr old dog who is a gsd x collie but does not want to learn will sit but nothing else have tryed clicker training dog obedience classes where he just sat and refused to move. When you call him he goes right down on his belly and then starts licking.
All my others have leart really quickly had Ollie only a month and has already mastered sit wait stay heel finnish and am going to start agility soon. Oscar doesn't play either and seems never to want to do anythink only time he ever is intrested in something is getting to the football pitch when going for a walk and pulls like mad. Cant think what i am doing wrong with him as have trained all my others the same. Also if ou go to touch him he goes all submissive on his belly and will wet himself and one got any ideas
he isn't naughty never chews or charges round like the others just seems to quiet for a normal dog he has been the vet a few weeks ago and they said he is fine he is booked in to be neutered in a few weeks
- By lel [gb] Date 11.08.03 21:44 UTC
You say you have only had Ollie for one month - do you know what sort of past life he has had ???
Have you tried using treats wen training ???
Lel
- By cassie N ollie [gb] Date 11.08.03 22:02 UTC
Ollie is our other dog We had Oscar from being 12wks old
i always use treats with my dogs when training
he gets on with the other dogs just doesn't want to socialise with them
we took him to training classes from 15 wks old after his vacinations but he didn't want to do anythink just sat and refused to move tryed coaxing him with treays and fussing him tried ignoring his behaviour but nothing worked.
He is really quiet compared to my others doesn't play or anythink
any is=deas?
- By Dill [gb] Date 11.08.03 23:42 UTC
Is it possible that Oscar could be hard of hearing or deaf?? Often a deaf dog isn't spotted so easily if he lives with other dogs as he takes his cue (barking, coming for food etc. ) from his companions. My friends dog (a Dally, for pete's sake) was found to be deaf at 18 months old, the vet missed it when giving Vaccs and it wasn't until 6 months after the booster, when the owners commented on how hard the dog seemed to train that it was recognised.

Hope its not that but couldn't ignore the similarities.

Regards
Dill
- By Brainless [gb] Date 12.08.03 00:35 UTC
It sounds like he is an extremely under confident dog. Please do not castrate him, as this will make him worse. You may end up with a dog who will be picked on by other males as a bitch in season. He needs (at least at present) all the confidence boosters he can get, and testosterone is one of these.

As for how to proceed training such a character I will wait for those more experienced with rescue dogs than I. I would just suggest slowly slowly catchee monkey. You need to work more on trust before you inadvertently put on any pressure to achieve.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 12.08.03 07:24 UTC
He sounds as if he is nervous, submissive and insecure. Going down on his belly and lip-licking is a classic sign of this. I have no idea if this would be due to his genes, upbringing or whatever. Because of this I wouldn't neuter him because that could easily make your problems worse - removing his main source of confidence would probably make him even more fearful and therefore possibly aggressive, and other dogs may always see him as a "victim" and pick on him. With the collie part of him it is possible he's deaf, as someone else has mentioned. Do you take him out with your other dog or on his own?
- By cassie N ollie [gb] Date 12.08.03 08:40 UTC
He sometimes goes out on his own and sometimes with the others he is going to have to be neutered as we have 3 bitches
he isn't deaf coz as soon as he hears a noise he will bark and he comes when you call him when he is out by himself he is alot more confident when he is out with the other dogs and will go further away from me.
We think he might be nervous because where we had him from he wasn't really socialised as they had 3 kids and not much time for the dog and the dog was in a boarded of bit in the kitchen where the pups played as they were older. He also really pulls on the lead when we take him out by him self tried a halti/gentle leader but he hated it and just sat trying to rub it off.
- By Lorelei [gb] Date 12.08.03 09:16 UTC
HIi Cassie we have a gentle leader for Morse as he had 2 of your issues when we got him - pulling ont he lead and not knowing how to play also due to lack of socialisation. I taught him to play using tips from the PADS website and they also have counsellors to call who are expereienced with rescue dogs. Morse to this day dislikes the gentle leader and will try to rub it off at odd moments, but I persevered with it as I liked the idea that it reassures the dog by copying the way bitches carry pups and it made training him out of pulling a lot easier and the kids can walk him (with me) using it. He accepts that walks mean leader now. ONly you know if Oscar is really distressed rather than resisting like Morse. All the best.
Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / Oscar not wanting to learn

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