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By peanuts
Date 08.07.03 11:32 UTC
Just wondered if this type of thing as ever happened to anyone here with there breed of dog.
People strive for years to get really nice dogs to show and are very careful to stick as close as poss to the breed standered so that they may show there pups and be proud of their line and type.
But just latley in our breed dogs are pouring in from abroad and are totally different type, well i don't mean small differences , i mean huge ones
Huge ears when they should be small, mastiff like faces with wrinkles when they should be clean and square, no angulation, very sloping top lines , poor back ends i means these dogs do stick out a mile , really poor movement and to top it off getting really small instead of being giants like they should be, they are like large lab size.
But the thing is they are winning everything over here now people over here are using them to produce more pups and so everything is changing very dramaticly very quickly.
Some of the breeders that have been showing for years and have the most beautiful examples of the breed are not even being placed at all and it seems like a war is raging for the future.
Will it be a thing for the KC to look into , has anyone ever seen this before ?
I would just like your opinions as there are a lot of breeders and show persons on here.
Peanuts
By bob
Date 08.07.03 22:03 UTC
Hi peanuts
Just out of curiosity which breed are you talking about??
Alison
By Dill
Date 10.07.03 00:23 UTC
Hi Peanuts,
This happened in the cat world about 15years ago, Burmese cats were being Imported from America and some breeders/judges were then using them and the progeny in shows, they did well enough (and one strain particularly well) that the whole breed was in danger of changing completely. In fact on a number of occasions I was told by a judge that certain cats did not do well because they didn't look like ****** * cats, my reply to that was "well as they're Burmese surely they should look like Burmese?" . I stopped showing and breeding because of this, and because the imported cats suffered from protruding eyes and other anomalies of conformation. I must have been on the right track because they are now looking more like the original Burmese again, although the changes will be with the breed for a long time to come.
Always seemed like a case of "Emperors new clothes" to me :D
Regards
Dill
By peanuts
Date 10.07.03 14:08 UTC
Yes newfs , it just seems a shame that the old newfy look is disapearing and the new style which is sooooooo different is taking over.
i'll think i'll cross my girl with Dumbo and then my line can have huge ears to :)
Peanuts
Well done for your placing at Windsor Peanuts!!
:D
Nah don't worry in a few generations they'll be wanting those correct
ears back again!! So just stick to breeding to the standard don't be swayed
by 'fashion'
:)
By Lokis mum
Date 10.07.03 14:15 UTC
Awh... bless -your girl is a little (big:-) ) beauty!!!
Margot
By peanuts
Date 10.07.03 17:43 UTC
Not such a beauty today, she has just rolled in somthing really nasty!! :(
Peanuts

I have two newfoundlands and although I do not show,as I prefere carting and waterwork,I have seen the change in the breed,there seems to be a trent to have "glamour" rather than a down to earth working feel to the dog that are now taking the prizes,Years ago I had Lhasa Apso's and in the late eightees early ninety's the size( breed standard 10" for bitch's a bit larger for dogs) rose dramatically so it was difficult to tell the difference from Tibetan Terriers. If you entered the ring with a ten inch bitch she looked out of place. because the bigger one's had become the norm,so people seemed to get the impression it was the smaller one's was wrong.The same has also happened with another breed that I am in. Now the breed standard is being revised to fit the dog
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