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By guest
Date 25.06.03 23:54 UTC
some months ago i brought a pedigree kc registered dog that i paid a substancial amount of money for,and before i handed any money over she was fine,any problems i had with the dog i was told to contact her any time day or night and was asked to keep in touch (i did call her once to tell her that the dog was settling in fine,and on another occasion to ask about a minor medical problem the dog had developed,which she didnt have a clue about,i have since found out it is something the breed sometimes commonly suffer from,from someone who is not associated with this woman)
a problem arose with the dog over the weekend,started acting strange around my children and myself (bitten me twice and drew blood on two occasions,and still not really clear the full circumstances surrounding our little one) i contacted the breeder of our dog around 10 minutes after the last incident happened,to inform her what had taken place and to ask if she could have the dog back,i said i wasnt bothered about the money i had paid out, just the safety of the children.
she didnt want to know basically and all i got was "dont bother me anyway im on holiday" and she hung up.
and i was left compleatly gobsmacked so left it at that,this was on the afternoon,around 8pm on the evening she had passed our details onto a third party,who wasnt worried about what had happened just that there was a "free expensive" dog in the offering,when i refused to give him the dog (he was abnoxious to me and my wife) he threatened to come over and punch my face in,and take the dog anyway,and also said i was digging myself a grave if i ended up having the dog put to sleep (which is what i was going to do,because of what happened to the little one)
i then called the police,with the threat from this man he was going to get our address from the breeder and come over.they logged it and said if he turned up too call them straight away.
nothing happened and we presumed that was it,then after the weekend i had a call from the police to say she was reporting us for harrassment and nuciance telephone calls (we only spoke to the woman 3 times over the telephone) we were warned to leave her alone (my wife went compleatly beserk and said she has nothing else to say to her anyway and also asked the police to tell the breeder not to contact us either or give anymore of our details out to anyone else).
but i feel really let down by this "so called compassionate breeder" is there anything i can do to complain about this woman other than the kennel club? i have contacted them already and they were not much help.
By lel
Date 26.06.03 07:05 UTC

You cant force this woman to take the dog back unfortunately - but what a nasty piece of work she is . Once again the issue of unscrupulous breeders rears is ugly head again. :(
By KJF
Date 26.06.03 11:22 UTC
What has happened to your dog? What breed is he/she?
By xavirene
Date 26.06.03 11:36 UTC
Just seen your posting. What a thoroughly unpleasant woman! You could try the Kennel Club. Or maybe write to 'Dog World' or 'Our Dogs' mentionong the breed and the area from which you bought it. This might identify her to other breeders.What happened to the dog? Good luck.
By sam
Date 26.06.03 12:54 UTC

guest, it would be nice if you could register here so we could help, ot at least let us know the breed & what you have now done with the puppy?
By Irene
Date 26.06.03 17:47 UTC
You could try and find out if she is a member of any of the breed clubs, for that breed, whatever it is, If you register some of us just might be able to help a bit more.
By mayhem
Date 26.06.03 18:01 UTC
Would you e-mail me please giving details of location, name of breeder, the price , if the pup was K.C. and if she was licensed.
By HELEN2003
Date 27.06.03 01:27 UTC
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By Val
Date 27.06.03 03:51 UTC
In the name of balance folks, let's remember that there are two sides to every story!
Some years ago I realised that a lady who had two of my dogs was having mental health problems. The two dogs were fighting, mainly because they were spending much of the day in a very small utility room. I spent nearly 18 months, visiting twice a month, to keep open the lines of communication in a delicate situation, trying to persuade the family to let me have at least one of the dogs back. Remember that once we sell a dog, a breeders "rights" over the dog have been sold too and we can only "request" that we have a dog back! I felt that my comments weren't being heard, and I even put this in writing. I was then told that everything had settled down, the dogs were getting more attention and everything was just fine.
The next I heard was from our breed rescue saying that one of my dogs had been rehomed 2 hours away. When I asked why I hadn't been told before, because I had been trying to get the dogs back for many months, I was told that when rescue had asked if the breeder had been notified, the reply was "Yes, but she isn't interested"!!!! I was glad that I had the letter to back up my story, because our two stories were as different as chalk and cheese.
So these days folks, I try to remember this before judging people and suggesting retribution that could cause all sorts of repercussions, that there are indeed two sides to every story.
By graceb
Date 27.06.03 06:52 UTC
From what I understand the "breeder" resides in the West Mids and doesn't have an affix. This guest has posted on other sites, including the free-ads.
Grace
By Admin (Administrator)
Date 27.06.03 07:22 UTC
The guest has also posted anonymously so please remember this when you all react to this post.
By moo
Date 27.06.03 10:09 UTC
I think its awful of the breeder to pass someones details to a third party but I do think that the guest poster has given very little detail about what the dog actually did and what she has done prior to reaching the stage she is at now, considering having the pup PTS or rehomed. I do feel that sometimes people are too quick to get rid of problem dogs, and remember sometimes the 'problem' is of their own doing.

I must agree. Often times the puppy buyer is too embarassed to contact the breeder. I had a situation with my second ever litter, they had decided that when a baby was born that they could no longer keep him and I had made all the arrangements to have him back at around two years of age, and an experienced Obedience friiend had a friend interested, and was willing to do some remedial training with him, and pick him up for me (as I don't drive). At the last minute they changed their minds and the dog was to live with the parnets, whose home he spent all day at anyway as the family ran their own business.
Nearly two years later my friend telephoned me saying the people had contacted her, asking if she was still interested in having the dog!!!! She told them to contact me straight away, she really had to insist, as they told her they felt they had messed me abpout, and were to embarrassed to contact me.
A Champion bitch in our breed as an older puppy ended up in a small private rescue, one of whose volunteers couldn't beleive that an Elkhound breeder wouldn't want to know, so contacted a friend in the breed. They were able to extrapolate which litter the bitch was from (numerically small breed) and contacted the breeder who was most distressed. She had her back, and she went to live with her Dams breeder, who started showing her, and made her up.
Ever since then the lady who had bred the pups Mum has had all her Pups ear tattooed, and I do the same. this way should they end up in rescue they can be positiely identified and matched with their breeder.
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