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By bulldogowner
Date 06.06.03 18:33 UTC
me and my husband have been to see some puppies tonight (because i feel broody again lol) and all i wanted to know is what is a reasonable price to pay for cross bred puppy???
as the couple who are selling the pups have said the price of them is open to offers (which i think is strange) but however they are adorable i have seen "mom and dad" who were beautiful dogs.
and after a discussion with the owners of the puppies i have said i would ring them later on tonight with my decision of an offer.
they are crossed with a bulldog and a mastiff.
i dont want to offer to little,as i wouldnt want them to feel insulted.
but what is reasonable???
jane.

Looking through the ads in our local free paper, crossbreed puppies go for between £50 and £100.

I would agree, as it is likely to cost them in the region of £50 plus in food wormer, some bedding etc for each pup!
By bulldogowner
Date 06.06.03 19:13 UTC
hi,
i was going to offer a little more but seeing mom and dad and knowing what a bulldog costs (not sure about the price of a bullmastiff) i thought they might be hoping for a little more im a little confused now

i know at the end of the day they are classed as a mongrel,but i was willing to pay anything (not sure about the husband :D ) he said he needed a little time to discuss it with me,and that he would get back to them later.

To my way of thinking, it doesn't matter what breed the parents are, the facts are that a crossbreed is a crossbreed is a crossbreed - none is more 'valuable' than any other.
:)
By mandatas
Date 06.06.03 19:46 UTC
Hi,
I would usually say about £100 for a cross-bred pup, just out of interest (being nosy really), what cross are they?
Manda
X
By Jackie H
Date 06.06.03 20:04 UTC
Bulldog x Bullmastive, must say the logistics of getting the mateing interest me. You are right that Bulldogs and in fact Bullmastives are not the cheapest of breeds to buy or breed, I am suprised that anyone should allow such a x to happen if it was a mismate. Would have thought that it would need some help to achieve, what do others think? Can you let us know which is the dam.
By bulldogowner
Date 06.06.03 20:39 UTC
hi,
the dam is a bullmastiff and the sire is a bulldog i dont really know how these dogs got put together or the circumstances but the owner of the bulldog lives next door to the lady who owns the bullmasiff,so i can only assume that the owner of the bitch who has had this litter was not supervising her while she was in heat.
i was led outside to look at the sire and there was little fencing to seperate these dogs which did surprise me (it has made my husband think it was something that was done deliberatly which is why he needed to think about buying one of these pups,and has still not made a decision)
and he is saying that we need to think very very carefully as he has said that if these pups do sell for a good price the owners of the dogs are just going to do it again deliberatly and i really do agree which is why they have said they are "open to offers" on the price of these puppies.
my husband drove all day to view these puppies and was not convinced that it was a mistake,but then i tend to be a little more trusting (which i suppose is a foolish thing) but mistakes do happen.
jane.
By sam
Date 06.06.03 19:58 UTC

Although part of me feels that £100 would be unlikely to cover the cost of PROPERLY rearing a pup of this size, the more sensible part of me says to offer very little, or they may just think about a repeat mating!!!
By westie lover
Date 06.06.03 20:50 UTC
HI, I think I would be a little more direct and ask them what they were hoping for. Then if its reasonable - say £100 or less, and you are both happy about it, just pay it!! Dont forget to ask them to do a 6 week free insurance like the Pet plan scheme, I am sure they do it for xbreeds as well as pedigrees.
By bulldogowner
Date 06.06.03 23:42 UTC
hi,
after a long discussion with my husband this evening he has said we must not purchase one of these puppies:( he has agreed we can have another dog :) he loves (neopolitan mastiffs and bullmastiffs and dogue de bordeaux) so i think hes thinking about one of those breeds in particular,but even though we have experience of large breeds (deerhounds and bulldogs) how are these breeds he has mentioned with children?
as we have a daughter (aged 4) i know they are gentle dogs (but its there size in wieght that is a slight worry for me) and a lot heavier in wieght compared to our deerhounds and bulldogs.
i have also talked him into visiting the local dogs homes in the morning:) which he also said was a better idea than buying one of the puppies.
so any info regarding the above breeds mentioned with children would be greatly appreciated.
jane.
The Bullmastiff, has a very good reputation with children :)
They are a bit more laid back than a Boxer.
It must be said I have been toying long and hard between the Dogue and Bullmastiff myself.
however I am swinging more in favour of the Bullmastiff :)
I keep looking everytime I'm at shows...sigh, I think they'd make a great companion for my
Boxer babies :) Now all I have to do is work on the other half...3 dogs are surely much better than 2
or maybe 4 dogs to even things out eventually, LOL I think he'd have a fit!! ;)
By Carla
Date 06.06.03 20:47 UTC
How about going to a rescue service and adopting an unwanted puppy from there. Your £100 would go a lot further. There are loads
here to choose from.
By lel
Date 06.06.03 23:56 UTC

How does a bulldog mate with a bullmastiff bitch ??

Well, I dont mean HOW - I do know about the birds and bees :D but it seems very strange
Lel
By bulldogowner
Date 07.06.03 00:06 UTC
hi,
i know it sounds unbelivable but its true (i wondered that myself as we were driving over too see them),but before we had our deerhound spayed our oldest bulldog was always trying his best :D (she even lay down for him to mount her once so we had to put him in kennels until her season had finished and as soon as we could we had her spayed).
so i know its possible (as i know bitches on heat can be very cheeky with the males when they are ready :D).
jane :)
By norm
Date 07.06.03 10:35 UTC
Hi,
I don't like the sound of this. How big are the pups, do they look like either breed? You could be getting into all sorts of problems. I have Bulldogs so I know about their specific problems and the one that springs to mind is the shortened trachea and breathing problems that Bulldogs can have. If this occurs and the dog grows to the size of a mastiff, the poor dog could be putting extreme pressure on his heart, through all the extra weight. I know that bulldogs are descended from the mastiff but I wonder if these have been intentionally bred for another purpose.
I wouldn't trust these people, maybe you could keep an ear to the ground about who buys the pups and if they have any further accidental matings in the future. Just my opinion for what it's worth.
Norm
By archer
Date 07.06.03 12:41 UTC
I have seen similar crosses to this for extortionate prices-£400+.People must live in cloud cuckoo land!!!
Archer

I know someone who bought a bullmastiff x St Bernard for that price a couple of years ago. The wife got firgtened of it when it got amourous with her at about 9 months old, and they got rid of it :(
The man they bought it from was delibdrately crossing all manner of large mastiff breeds.
By sam
Date 07.06.03 17:26 UTC

brainless...wouldnt have originated in the somerset area by any chance??:(

Quite possibly as these stupid people live in Bristol. they are freinds of my Dads wife, the dog buyers. the husband is the 'Hard Man' type, and is a personal security person.
Tell me more???
By sam
Date 08.06.03 20:43 UTC

brainless...see my previous posts re; an outlet nr. bridgwater called Dans Dogs....he specialises in these mastiff type crosses....at £500-£700 a piece!!!!!
By tanni
Date 07.06.03 12:53 UTC
exactly what i was thinking norm!!!. i wouldnt touch them with a bargepole.
By bulldogowner
Date 07.06.03 12:53 UTC
hi norm,
my husband said lastnight that we must not buy one of those pupppies,so after getting up early this morning and going around the dogs homes and rescue centres we came across a real beauty.
shes a brindle bullmastiff called Sadie who was a severe cruelty case, we walked her with our other dogs and they all got on really well and she loved our daughter and howled after her when she went running across the field that the dogs are walked in.
so all we have to wait for now is the homecheck (i am sure that it will be fine) and then she can hopefully come and live with us where she will be cherished.
i have 4 bulldogs and know the problems that they can be prone to (but i have not been faced with any problems with mine so far, our oldest one is 6 years old and is as healthy as a bulldog could be APART FROM HIS SNORING :D). the puppies were a decent size (which was the other worry for my husband) which is why he was so adament he was not going to spend his money (and he didnt like the "open to offers" reply from them).
im sure our money has gone to a better cause by offering Sadie a home and to be honest i cant wait until our homecheck has been done :) and then she can enjoy being loved and cherished by us.
jane.
By mel78
Date 07.06.03 13:11 UTC
let us know how things go for you,and let us know when you can bring her home.
at least your money will be put to a better use,by going through the rescue
good luck
mel :)
By corso girl
Date 07.06.03 23:29 UTC
WELL DONE JANE! Ihave had Bullmastiffs for 23 years now and love em to bits and we have Bulldogs had them for 5 years now and Cane-Corsos for 2 years and love them all i am sure your Bullmastiff will give you lots of love and fun lots of luck Jackie.
By mr murphy
Date 07.06.03 12:57 UTC
Hi Jane
Normally I would agree that 50 to 100 pounds was okay. As the dogs are bull breeds though this changes it a little. Like archer says they can command up to 400 pounds which is totally unreasonable. I would say 150 to 200 pounds is a fair price if this is the type of dog you want. I think you will most likely end up with a healthy large bull type dog and its probably worth that to you, if not everyone. I would certainly pay that for one. I paid a lot more than that for my ISBTs and some say they are nothing more than crosses. I didnt mind as it was what I wanted.
Regards Mick
By BL
Date 07.06.03 15:01 UTC
hello all,
my sister in law has just got a lovely English bull terrier x staff for £50, the original price was £200 but I think the breeder was pushing it. Most of the pups went for £100 but as he had 2 left (at 10 weeks) reduced them to £50.
By norm
Date 07.06.03 17:43 UTC
I'm glad to hear your are not considering having one any longer. Good luck with Sadie, I'm sure it will all be OK with the homecheck. Did you try bulldog rescue at all for a dog? Although I do believe they have a waiting list! At least your money is not lining the pocket of the 'accidental breeders'.
Norm
By tanni
Date 07.06.03 19:55 UTC
at the moment the bulldog rescue waiting list is about a year/18mnths.
By bob
Date 08.06.03 12:22 UTC
Hi Bulldogowner
I've been busy and just catching up! This has got to be a coincidence, cos yesterday I was talking to someone with this strange looking dog. Now from the head you could tell it had bulldog in it, but it had long legs that looked very odd but a good sized body. So I just had to know what it was! lol Bullmastiff x Bulldog and she had paid £400 for her dog 3 years ago.
Neapolitans? It would be hard for you to get one as rescue, because the breeders who voluntarily rehome the recues will not re-home to people with children under 12. Mad really cos I have two children 18months and 4yrs and my neo is a sweetheart with the kids.
Just flicked back to see what other breeds you had mentioned and saw you may be rehoming a bullmastiff.
Good luck and hope everything works out for you
Alison:)
By Dill
Date 08.06.03 13:23 UTC
Bloke next door to me has a bull mastiff x rottweiler (father was the mastiff) and claims to have paid £350 for it

. I didn't believe him until reading this thread. But why pay that much for a x-bred dog when a pure bred would cost about the same and you get the papers etc. There again a proper bred dog wouldn't have been available to him as this dog is left in a yard 24-7 (he's a 'for show' dog)
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