please can some one help, I have two mini daschunds and a frenchi all 6 months, one of the daschunds knows to go out side for the toilet, the other two go out side most of the time but at times will go in the kitchen even if the back door is open( which we leave open most of the time), we praise them when they go out side, we go on holiday in 4 weeks and would like them to be going out side all the time when we go.
hope someone can give advise.

Hi,
Wow, you've got your work cut out with three the same age! I was lumbered with two at the same time, and to be honest, the more pups you have the longer it seems to take to train them! :rolleyes: Where I usually get a single pup fully housetrained by around 4 months, the two together took a lot longer. So I imagine that three will take longer still. It sounds as if they're getting the idea, though. Just keep on plugging away at watching them like hawks and calling them outside as soon as it looks like they're going to make a mess.

Sorry I can't be of more help.
:)

thanx for the responce, I thought that would be the case,

Hi, to be honest I found it quite easy to train my doberman, but that's probably because I'm with her all day long. We've even managed to train her to do it in one part of the garden only. So you can do it but you need to be patient. Why don't you try leaving them outside most of the time and when you see them go toilet then really praise them and let them in for a while, maybe even give them a treat(that always helps). It's just a suggestion. I don't know how it would work with 3 dogs. Also if you catch them in the act in the house straight away chuck some water over them and tell them off I know it's sounds mean but that's what was suggested to my mum by our dog trainer for most bad behavior such as barking all the time it may work for toilet training too. Good Luck
Sashac

Here is some information on [link http://www.champdogsforum.co.uk/cgi-bin/board/topic_show.pl?tid=14670&hilite=Toilet%] toilet training [/link] one dog at a time .

As to throwing water over a dog - humm let's think about this in a different context.

There you are, quietly eating your dinner - a perfectly natural thing to do when someone chucks a bucket of water over you. Why!!!! Perhaps you are eating incorrectly, in the wrong order, sitting in the wrong place - you don't know. Nor will your puppy have any idea why you have chucked water over it.

Teach it what you want it to do and then, when you are perfectly sure it understands (and this can take some time) and only then apply some kind of correction to discourage it from doing whatever it is you don't want it to do:)

Christine

Well no offence, but that is what my proffesional dog trainer has suggested so pardon me if I would prefer to listen to him. And I did say that you must literally catch the dog in the act not just decide to soak it after the event. You should try and teach it right from wrong at the start, then you should not need correction for doing something that it should not be, because it will not do it in the first place. How can you make a dog understand if you don't make it quite clear what it is doing wrong. Just as when they do something right you praise and treat them, you must make it absolutely clear when they do something wrong. And I never said a bucket of water a small cup or even a spray gun just enough so the dog doesn't like it and won't want it to happen again. And make sure you say NO at the same time.

At the end of the day I was just trying to help someone with something that I know has worked with other aspects of dogs behaviour. If you have any other suggestions then I'm sure people will be grateful but don't mock mine, when you haven't tried it yourself. Different things work for different people so if anyone else is reading, remember having a dog is like having a child and all parents choose to raise there children in different ways, do whatever is best for you. As long as your dog is loved and happy that's all that matters.

Also if you catch them in the act in the house straight away chuck some water over them and tell them off I know it's sounds mean but that's what was suggested to my mum by our dog trainer for most bad behavior

Perhaps the previous post should have been a bit clearer then - remember that this forum is read by all sorts of people, some who may take advice literally without thinking about the whys and wherefores so I was just putting across, in a light hearted way why "chuck some water over them and tell them off", may not be appropriate.

Christine