CAN ANYONE PLEASE GIVE ME SOME ADVICE, I HAVE 2 COLLIES ONE BITCH AND DOG. THE BITCH STARTED BLEEDING 2 DAYS AGO BUT WE HAVE PARTED THEM FOR THE MEANTIME.

I WAS WANTING TO KNOW WHEN IS THE BEST TIME TO LET THEM MATE.

THANKS

Here we go again :rolleyes:

I rest my case :-(

Not at all unless they have both been eye tested, hip scored (with good results), judged to be excellent examples of their breed in conformation and temperament, and be suitable as mates to produce the best potential quality offspring.

It goes without saying that the bitch should be at least two years of age :D

I would contact the bitches and dogs breeders for more advice regarding the background bloodlines, as you should know the strengths and weaknesses of as many of the dogs in both pedigrees as possible, so you will need to talk to people who knew these dogs.

thankyou brainless for being helpful. As for the other 2 rude people i did say i was new to this and i thought this was for advice, obviously i was wrong

Not trying to be rude, just making a point.

If you have not done enough research to know when to put your bitch to a dog, then you obviously have not got enough knowledge to whelp a litter.

Best advice I can give you is to either get the Book of the Bitch and read it cover to cover, or not to do it.

Most whelpings go without any problems, but will you be able to tell if your bitch is having difficulties or will you leave it to late and risk losing the pups and the bitch.

I understand everybody has to start somewhere but too many folk are breeding for all the wrong reasons. If you do your homework and find out all you need to know and are prepared to get the dog and bitch tested for what ever you breed requires and be prepared for all and ANY outcomes and give a life time commitment to all your puppies then you are ready to become a breeder. I think ! Believe me the advice you get on here is probably ...... NO ............. IS the best you'll get anywhere. They only have your dog, your pups and your interest at heart.

Margaret

This reading of an account of breeding should give you an indication of what you are likely to encounter.
Lara x

Stacey, stay with the board. You will see that many people get into breeding for all the wrong reasons, and with very little preperation. Unlike many things, we are dealing with living creatures, and there are a lot of ethical and moral issues, as well as practical and financial ones.

It is a sad fact that ill advised and irresponsibly bred puppies swell the ranks of the resue statistics, which includes those dogs put to sleep.

As a breeder I expect to have to take back pups, on average one per klitter, at any time throughout it's life, most often in first two years, but sometimes a s mature adults or oldsters. No matter how you try to vet potential homes, peoples expectations, circumsatnces etc change.

Breeding is a lifetime commitment to not only your pups, but the breed as a whole.

This is why you may find some posters negative, as we do get quite exasperated with SOME people sometimes.

If you decide to take the advice offered and breed with the best interests of the breed and pups at heart, you will get support.

Posters can only reply to the post, which if you read it yourself, not knowing the poster, you could maybe understand the reaction. :D

hi ya im no expert but i have read a bit ,i think the best time to put your dogs together is when the bloody discharge changes colour from red to straw colour usually about day 9.or so .good luck...

You can't always go by a day, my girl was mated the once on day 12 and it was spot on, she went on to have 7 puppies, you just have to watch the change in colour of her discharge, when the red changes to straw colour then you know the time is right, also her vulva will be very large and soft

hi stacey
Before you decide to breed please read my post 'a warning to would be breeders', read up on breeding talk to other breeders to see if they can give you some help when your bitch is due to whelp, when you have found out as much as you can the pros and the cons for breeding, then you should decide whether or not you still want to breed, obviously you are not going to get all the information this time round so perhaps you should think about leaving the mating this time round, also if you do leave it this time then you can put some more money aside for the litter for vets fees, vacs, microchipping, kc reg, food, treats etc, also do you have homes for the pups? i had homes lined up for my pups before i mated my bitch, in fact i had so many homes lined up i had to turn people away.
please bear all this in mind before jumping in head first
good luck in what ever you decide to do
tanya

How old is the bitch? For a breed her size she shouldn't be mated until she is 2 years old, and has passed all the relevant health checks for her breed (not just the vet saying she's okay!!) Likewise the dog should also have passed all the checks for hereditary diseases.

Assuming all this has been done, and you have a few potential owners lined up for the puppies (it's not easy to find good homes for pups, but very easy to find bad homes) then the best time to mate them is a day after she has started to 'stand' for the dog.

Hi, PLease do order/buy "The Book of the Bitch" By Kay White and Jim Evans and read and read again digest it completely. Do get their health tests done, and dont breed them unless they are clear to prevent them passing on any hereditary problems - eye tests could be arranged within a week, maybe ? Individualdogs and bitches dont have to display a health probem-they might appear fine but pass on a problem to their puppies. Buyers are very quick to prosecute these days and a litter of puppies with inherited problems could be very costly through the courts.

LADY DAZZLE....

When I replied to your post...this was exactly what I had in mind.....

This post will probably be deleted (Admin, and everybody, I'm sorry if i'm offending anybody) but I have to say...questions like this really annoy me.
If people are serious about breeding their dogs, and if their dogs are good enough to breed...........WHY aren't they doing any research?

This really drives me mad....you probably all know, that my first litter is due in a couple of weeks.....I have read SO much (the book of the bitch has become my bible!) I've had conversations with my vet, my breeder...everybody....I have a lot of support, which I couldn't do without, If you are doing things properly.....it's very very stressful.

Why do people go into this with their eyes closed??

For anybody thinking of letting their bitch have a litter.......DON'T...

The bitch should be a good specimin of her breed, have all relevant health tests etc....and the same for the dog.

Okay...I'm jumping off my soapbox now!

Lisa