This may sound stupid but how do you qualify your dog for Crufts, I assume Ch shows, but what placings do you have to get it's not just first is it????

Just a little forward planning "somehope" ;)

And if you qualify in say "Puppy" what happens when Crufts 2004 happens and your pups no longer a pup? This is all very confusing, or is it?

I'm just confused in general today anyhow, I was on nights last night Sunday and back on days tomorrow

Karen

You need a 1st,2nd or 3rd at a champ show in either Minor Puppy, Puppy, Junior, Post Grad., Limit or Open to qualify for the next Crufts.
If you get a Stud Book number then you qualify for life.
If your puppy qualifies as a puppy then at the next Crufts I think there is a class which is Special Puppy where the age limit is increased to allow for dogs that qualified in puppy in the preceding year.

Can you tell me what a Stud Book number is? Thanx

Qualification for a Stud Book number varies for different breeds.
For a Staffie to qualify for a Stud Boo number the dog needs to have come 1st, 2nd or 3rd in either Limit or Open class at a Champ show (this is the same for all breeds which come under Band E)
You also get a stud book number if your dog has qualified for a Junior Warrant

Hi Karen

Crufts qualifiers are 1st,2nd and 3rd in Minor Puppy, Puppy, Junior, Post Graduate, Limit and Open. at Championship Shows where tickets are on offer for your breed.

If you qualify a puppy, there is a Special Puppy class at Crufts which is for dogs 9 months to 14 months on the date of the show.

So if you qualify a puppy which is to young for it to be entered at the next Crufts, then you are still qualified for the following one. If you qualify a puppy that is over 14 months for the next Crufts, then you go into the Special Junior class.

Think I have sort of made sense, well hope so anyway :-D

Stud Book numbers are more difficult to explain!!!

You get a stud book number if you win either a CC or a RCCand depending on which band your breed is in for a 1st in Limit and 1st, 2nd and 3rd in Open (thasts my breed anyway). From your name I assume you are Staffies in which case I believe 2nd and 3rd in Limit also qualify for it.

So to get a stud book number you only need the 1 placing?

Thanks Ladydazzle and Staffie,

Much appreciated, just wanted to be sure, and didn't quite understand the ins and outs so to speak.

Yes the breed is Staffords, taking pup to her first show soon and just wanted to know.

Thanks

Oh by the way Staffie how did the pups get on you had 5 coming on good are they?

And regarding your other post about someone stating their thoughts about you, are you considering getting back into showing?

Karen

following on from this - do you need to be placed three times before you are eligible for Crufts ?
Lel

No, once is enough, good luck.

Hi, sorry taken so long to get back to you but you know what it is like with kids in half term :-)
The pups have come on great thank you. They are now six weeks old and into everything:D
In answer to getting back into showing, what he has said has made us more determined to get back in the scene, just awkward at the moment as my middle son now runs for Scunthorpe Athletics clubs and most weekends he has races, and the weekends he does not we are trying to catch up on things not done the week before etc. Have got to put him first at the moment as he is doing really well. He is not so keen on doing Cross Country though so when track season over hopefully we can get to do our hobby. :-) The joys of being a parent ehhhh....

The class you qualify in (by getting placed) doesn't have to be the one you enter at Crufts. For example, if you qualify in a Puppy class, you don't have to enter the Puppy class at Crufts - you can enter the Junior, the Yearling, Post Graduate or whatever (or all!)

Ahhhhhhh...................I get it now .........Thank you :)

Karen

You can also qualify at Open Shows by winning BIS or BPIS
bye
Gwen

Placings well out of my league I think BPIS etc but Thanks for the info.

I think at this stage if we get in and out the ring without me having a panic attack we will be doing well ;) Shame I can't send the pup in on her own and wait in the car :)


Karen

Karen
:D
Imagine !!!

I know Lesley but its put the pressure on a bit,Sal's litter sister qualifying for Crufts on her
first time out at the Championship show at Bath. Coming second in a class of 16 minor pups.

Oh no pressure. I'll just go put my head in the oven ho hum :)

Karen

Well , I always say-
if you could swop the top most bestest , superest Staffy in the entire world that just won every show going with your Sal ,who may never win anything at all ( but she will so dont worry ) you just wouldnt swop would you ?
Stop worrying Karen !!
She will be fine!! and so will you !!
Hey I almost sound like an expert and I'm petrifed myself !! :)
Lel
Remind me where your first show is -i Know its the 13th June .
We are out the 14th at Alyn and Deeside ( the first SBT show - eeeeekkkk)

First show Local show an open evening show. Run by my ringcraft club no specific Stafford class just mixed.

Then 26th June I think (can't find the papers at the moment decorating) we're at the Derby Hort&Agriculture show, specific Stafford class but a mixed show.

At least for that one Staffords are up first in the ring and bitch puppies like mine first of all, so no time to get nervous I hope ;)

No it won't be to bad in fact I think I'm starting to look forward to it, she does at least make an attempt to stand still :D and will walk okay, at least she does in the back garden:) just got to get that transfered to the ringcraft and then the ring. But I'd rather she enjoyed it and had fun loads of time and at the end of the day she's the Best anyhow.

Just got to remember to take her to the show with me ;)

Good Luck, at the show your an old hand now!
Karen

could it be third time lucky ( I think not !! ;) )
The owner of Sal's litter sister - is she experienced in the showing world ?
Le

Well sort of he has been acompanying his sister to shows around the country with her male Staff and decided to get on the act himself. I don't think he showed his sister dog just watched.

So not really no not that I'm aware of.

How are Gus's brothers and sisters doing?

His sister has won best puppy in show at the last one she entered - as you say , dont you feel the pressure . O well -
time will tell :)

Hi Karen and Lel
The first show I went to was Birmingham Champ Show (straight in the deep end) and I got a VHC in MPB. I was that nervous I did not know I had been picked and in front of everyone went to walk out of the ring only for the steward to come running after me to go in the line up. God I was so shocked and my legs were literally shaking!!!
The same little red bitch qualified for Crufts in MPB by coming 1st. She was quite terrier type and many times we had heard snyde comments about her, but they all shut up when she got a first out of about 18 bitches!!!
Sad thing about that bitch is that she was a real chewer and puller and at the age of 11 months she had pulled her bottom teeth forward so on a first look she appeared undershot, but it was not the jaw it was the angle she had pulled her teeth into.
Any staffy shower/breeder is paranoid about mouths holding but when they get past abour 7/8 months you tend to breathe a sigh of releif, WRONG you have to watch they don't damage a perfect mouth. When this happened with our bitch we were gutted, but we learned from the experience :-)

Hi
just the question we were going to ask. Our puppy got best puppy in show at a boxer club open show just befroe we got him. Is he qualified then, or is it just the general open shows where this counts?
thanks
Julie

As far as I am aware they only qualify at CHAMP shows not when placed at open shows .
Lesley

Up the thread a bit , Gwen says that BPIS at Open does qualify .....

I don't know ..just pointing out what has already been said :)

Yes, BIS and BPIS at an open show also qualifies.
:)

Only BIS & BPIS at general Open shows, not breed, I am afraid. Sorry,
Bye
Gwen