My flatcoat is starting to get a bit stiff when she gets up after a sleep- especially if she has been doing a lot of running about and swimming.Someone has advised me that a bioflow collar should help her.it seems they are kind of magnetic bracelet contanind in the collar .I think they are similar to the ones humans can wear for rheumatism.Has anybody tried them?I dont fancy paying £30.00 if they dont give her any benefit.

Hi, I put a Bio-Flow on my Dobermann after she got arthritic in one of her knees, it worked wonders with her. After she died we put it on our old cocker spaniel who was getting a bit stiff and he has perked up no end. The collar comes with 3 month money back guarantee if I recall. I think they are worth a try and would definately recommend them :-)
Clair

The best I can say is that my old girl got no worse. There was certainly no improvement. I got my money back.

There was still no change in her condition.

I would recommend one, too. My old Munster wore one for four years, it gave her a new lease of life.

I used one on william and it was brilliant and now mattie has one just got one last week and it makes a big diference already I have the contact number if you want it

Over 20 years ago I was part of a NHS study in which magnetic therapy was found to have no effect at all. In the study the magnet was placed very carefully using Xrays and yet these collars/bracelets are expected to work just randomly applied. To the best of my knowledge it is not used by the NHS at all. My pensioner father bought a bracelet which did not help at all and when I looked at the pathetic bit of velcro strap with stitched in magnet that he paid over £30 for it looked like simple exploitation to me.

I dont think you can put down an idea just because it didnt work for you what about herbal remedies ?who would think plant extract could help arthritis etc....but more people than ever use alternative remedies my mother always wore a copper bracelet and it helped her.
Also I think if you believe something will work then it will and mattie has definitly shown improvement with the collar.
I also heard that some very old remedies were in fact used in hospitals and even heard of leeches being used :(

I think that was why I was so disappointed in the bio-flow collar - I so strongly wanted it to work!! I can understand the principle - magnets work with iron, there is iron in the red blood cells, so the magnets will work with the blood.....but nothing. :(

I'm delighted it has worked for you, though!

(Herbal remedies are very good, used correctly - after all, aspirin is a herbal remedy!)

Beckysmum was asking for experiences and I just gave mine Mattie :) Herbal remedies are a totalling different kettle of fish, they are drugs in the same way as pharmaceutical drugs just in a less pure form and research has been done over the years to confirm there efficacy, in fact there has been recent evidence to support the use of fish oils to improve joint mobility therefore this is what I would suggest as a first line of action. For many years my Dandie appears to have benefitted from New Zealand Green Lip Mussel extract although I probably opted for this because it was trendy ;):) and good old Cod or Halibut would perhaps have been just as benefitial. Many old remedies are used in hospitals as you say but they are always backed up by research. The government has recently anounced more funding to look at alternate therapies such as accupuncture but I have not heard that any further research into magnatherapy is planned.

If anyone wants any leeches I have quite a few in a soggy clay patch in my garden!

Christine

Mattie

I think it's important to remember that herbal extracts and essences can be very potent - their effectiveness has a scientific basis. Many modern drugs are copies of herbal remedies - ie aspirin. In Europe clinical trials have shown St John's Wort to be an as effective anti depressant as many patented brands - but with less side effects.

Jo :)

Bought one for my old dog - 13.5 years - last year and it had no effect what so ever.
Decided to sent it back but my other dog playfully grabbed his neck and broke the collar, £30.- wasted :-(
You can always give it a try and get your money back if it doesn`t work.

Cara

Hi

My mum and dad's dog is now 17 and wears one. It works for him.
My lab x also wears one and it is great.
I think often you don't notice the benefits of it until it gets left off for 24 hrs after a bath or something, and then you can see the stiffness return.

I think you'll find you get a 90 day money back guarantee anyway.

Hi

They are exactly the same as the human ones for rhumatism, and the human ones are tried, tested and certified medical devices.

Yes, they are £30 but there is a 90 day money back guarantee if you do not see any benefit.

Personally, I have used one on two of my boys, on myself and one my stepfather and all of us have felt the benefits. Oh the other hand my husband got no help at all from it.

If you want the contact details of a supplier, who is also a breeder/kennel owner who has used them on herself and her dogs please email me.

Rgds

Julia & Hooligans

HI, I was at a craft fair last week and another company was selling them for £20. (I assume it is the same as the bioflow collar? .. fabric collar with quick release clasp and a magnet sewn into it.)

I wanted to buy one for my 10yr old lab, but I had spent my cash on a wooden chinese chequers game for the kids and fudge for me :D and they didn't take credit card and I didn't have cheque book on me so I took an order form home. (Still £20 inc P&P)

mail me and I'll give you their phone number if you like.

:) Sharon ~ walkhound@hotmail.com

Julia, I know they have been tried and tested, as I said in my first post I was involved in early trials for the NHS and yes I am a human :), its just that it was found not to work, I have not seen anything published since to show different, in a journal that is, as opposed to the the literature handed out by the makers of these collars. Not sure what you mean by certified? At least they probably cause no harm (unless, of course, you believe that stuff about living under a pylon ;):D)

Glad to hear that you are human Isabel, otherwise you would be an exceedingly clever animal!!!!:)

The bioflow is now catagorised as a grade 1 (from memory) medical device.

Pylon, that not the same as pilesof is it (as in piles of dogs, piles of washing) in which case I definately live under pilesof.

I belive it is an individual thing. As I say mine worked, my husbands didn't.

But whose grading system is it? People should just try it I suppose and see if it helps them (some placebos are very powerful :D) but I do think they should avoid being exploited, my advise would be prise a magnet off one of your fridge magnets sew it on to a webbing collar and away ya go.

Hehe Isabel. Or what about recycling a couple of fridge magnets into a pair of trendy fashion earrings? Or an eye-catching new hair accessory?

:D

Yep, then flog them for 30 quid :p:D