Hello
Does anyone one here use homeopathic drops or tablets for their dogs
instead of vet injections?
I need some advice on how to give the drops to puppies.
I have just bought a bottle off ainsworths.co.uk and I asked for a details
on what age to give puppies the drops and how many drops and for how
long. They have not got back to me and I really need to know sooner
rather than later. I may give them a call but wondered what experiences
you have had with these products.
Nutkin

If you look at Ainsworth's site http://www.ainsworths.com/ in the moving box on the right, you'll see the title "Homoeopathic Prevention for Dogs and Cats". If you click on that, you'll find information, including dosage, about nosodes.

It recently came to light that using homeopathic nosodes and not conventional vaccines, could make any insurance cover you have void. Might be worth checking?

Yeah thats right admin :D And also kennels and some training centers won't accept the dog with these vaccines.I'm not against them, just came up with too many shut doors when i researched it.
Tracey

That is really helpful info Admin
Thank you. I shall have to look into it.
also thank you tracey.
Nutkin

Hi nutkin
My 15 month old cavalier had had a course of nosodes when I bought her, as her breeder had a homeopathic qualification.I asked my vet about continuing the nosode (they don't just have 2 sets of jabs as in ordinary vaccinations ...I believe they have nosodes more often...) I was going to continue with the homeopathy,via my vet, but reading Chris Day's book of Homeopathy for small animals, even he implied that it may not be 100% effective.
The final block was Pet Plan, who all my animals are insured with...they confirmed that Poppy would not be insured against any of the "normal" vaccination type illnesses if we went along that route. My biggest fear was Parvo, as that is probably more common for her to have picked up at an early age.
So I too, gave in, and went the conventional route.
I think I will have the dogs immunity tested before any boosters, as I really don't want to overload on boosters that aren't necessary.
Sami

Hi Sami. I'm interested in your comments about Chris Day's book. I keep promising to buy myself one! I went to a seminar in 1996 with Chris Day on one side of the stage and a Vet from Intervet (who make Nobivac, the vaccine I used to use) on the other. My recollections of listening to these two genuine and passionate men, because they both were sincere about their views, was one of the contributing factors that helped me make my decision for my dogs.
The Intervet Vet said that an average of 3 out of 5 vaccines protected puppies. The other 2 failed because of the immunity passed from the Dam was still too high at 8 & 12 weeks. So 2 out of every 5 puppy owners were paying their money and receiving no protection! He also accepted that the leptospirosis part of the vaccine, lasted on average (and it's always an average unless you have titre levels tested because all dogs and their immune systems are different), 6 months, leaving the dog unprotected against this disease until its booster.
Chris Day is a qualified "conventionial" Vet, not a quack, who, because of his experiences, has chosen to practice in a different direction. It was one of the most difficult decisions that I've had to make but because of my experiences with vaccines, I have used Ainsworth's nosodes every since.
I don't think that there's a right or wrong way to do it - just different ways, and choices to be made with the information available. The irresponsible way is to do nothing.

I also went down the nosode route, instead of conventional vaccinations. My dogs will, therefore, never be accepted at boarding kennels. I have also had difficulties with training classes and dog groomers, some of whom insist on up-to-date boosters. But I just didn't feel it was right to compromise my views to satisfy the requirements of those who, it has to be said, have probably done a lot less delving into this subject than I have.
I think you have to do what you believe is right for your dogs' welfare.

Unfortunately my insurance will be null and void if I do not have my dogs done with convention vaccines. Believe you me if they can find a way out of paying you then they will. I do however, always treat my dogs with homoeopath medicines first including for fleas and parasites. Funnily enough my insurance will pay for alternative treatments for injuries if recommended by my vet. Strange things these insurance companies.

Don't know if I should be asking this - might open a can of worms :) Does the KC have an official position on vaccinations ? I suppose if they did then vaccination would be compulsory for those entering shows ?

Daisy

No Daisy. When you enter a show, you just sign that you won't take a dog who has contracted or been in contact with any infectious or contagious disease for 21 days before the show.

Thanks - thought that there must be some sort of rules about this :)

Daisy

Ah but Gibbsy, your Vet wouldn't suggest nosodes or they wouldn't get the vaccination money to pay this month's car payment!! That's why Chris Day's consultation fee is so high, because he doesn't make profit from drugs!

Hi
I have recently changed my vet, after being unsatisfied with the previous practice.

My new vets are open minded on the subject,& know I prefer homeopathy if possible. They've said they will be happy to send any of my animals to Chris Day by referral if I want, as they do not currently have a vet qualified in homeopathy. (I'm quite lucky in that Chris Day's practice is only a couple of miles away from where we live.)

Luckily none of the animals need treatment at the moment, and I use homeopathy for minor things I feel I can deal with myself...i.e. Arnica,Rhus Tox,Rescue Remedy etc etc.
(Referrals and alternative treatments are all covered under my dogs and cats insurances, so the high cost of consultations shouldn't be a problem.)

Good point though.....insurance covers alternative treatments, but then says only conventional vaccinations are acceptable!

Sami

Hi all, here`s what Chris Day says about insurance & kennels re nosodes. Scroll down to page 3 & ponts 24/25. :)
http://www.alternativevet.org/Nosode%20protection.pdf

Christine, Spain.

Hi everyone!

I was told by John Burns, the Vet who makes Burns Pet Food, to vaccinate a puppy using conventional vaccine but that boosters were unnecessary and that, in his experience, puppies who were vaccinated once did not go on to develop diseases such as parvo in adulthood.

I personally vaccinated my puppy ,using Nosodes from Ainsworths for the weeks leading up to this as it boosts the immune system and can also reduce any side-effects from the vaccine. I now give nosodes once a month.

I know it can be a problem with re insurance, boarding kennels etc but I personally think the health benefits outweigh any problems.

Well put Val :)