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By caronanne
Date 14.04.03 12:42 UTC
Hi Everyone
I want to ask if anyone is aware of any regulations there may be for having a kennel in your back garden, I currently have a kennel and run that is about 10 foot long but I am about to replace it, the joiner has been to let me have a quote but suggested I ask if planning permission is required. It is no larger than the previous kennel but I am reluctant to ask my local council for fear of opening up a can of worms.
So does anyone know what the regulations are and is there a web site that gives this type of information. The kennel will only be holding two dogs that are in effect my pets that I show as a hobby.
Thank you in advance
Caron & Em & Ran :)

I would have thought you'd be okay, because you don't need planning permission for an ordinary garden shed. The kennel itself wouldn't be bigger than that, would it?
By caronanne
Date 14.04.03 13:26 UTC
Yes it is really just a large shed, about 5' by 12' would that still be classifield as a shed, it will be able to be moved so its not a permanent fixture. I have also asked the permission of my neighbour who fortunately is a doggie person and she doesnt mind, the roof would be out of her eye line so that helps. Thanks Jean.

Can it be seen from the road?
If it can't be seen by the public, and your neighbour doesn't mind, then how would the council find out? ;)
By caronanne
Date 14.04.03 13:50 UTC
Ah ha good point, no you cant see it from the road, well you can from a cul de sac but you can see the one I have now and there have been no complaints so far. Might try and get away with this one, the worst they can do is ask me to take it down I suppose.
By bob
Date 14.04.03 15:33 UTC
I think the only thing you have to worry about is the height, so it doesn't block anyone's view and also that the roof is presentable.
Hope this helps
Alison :)
By briony
Date 14.04.03 20:38 UTC
HI i can help i've just fiished building a large brick and pantile kennel for my 2
goldens my partner is a cabinet maker :-)
As long as thesquare area of the buildings is less than 50% of the square area
of the land and the kennel is not used for business and the height is no higher
than 4 metres for a pitched roof or 3 metres for a flat roof you do not need
planning permission even if it is a brick structure.
I hope this helps,
Regards Briony :-)
By briony
Date 14.04.03 20:45 UTC
Also you dont need to inform neighbours,although it helps,and it does not matter
if it can be seen from the road so long as your the height i've said.
Briony :-)
By Jan Doherty
Date 14.04.03 21:43 UTC
I had my kennel built so that it came below the level of the fence and could not be seen. My shed roof can be seen!! Unless it is huge and blocks a neighbours view then I dont think anyone will object.

I did the same mine is 5 feet at the back and 5 foor 6 at the front. It is a double kennel each being 5 feet x 5feet, and there is an interconnecting inner door. Total floor area 10 x 5 feet.
By briony
Date 15.04.03 07:30 UTC
Hi my indoor kennel is 6ft x 15ft which then comes out to a covered run of
18ft x15 ft via 2 pop holes.The builiding has a pitched roof as does the run and
its just under 4 meters high.
My partner knows the building and planning regulations inside out,and we invited
the planning people down to come and have a look it was passed no problem.
Regards Briony :-)
By ARTandIT
Date 15.04.03 09:59 UTC
If the kennel was a brick built building it would require planning permission, a timber kennel is classified as a "temporary" building and doesn't generally come into the jurisdiction of Planning Approval... unless it is in the front garden etc. You can erect a large log challet or timber garage in your back garden without planning. There should be absolutely no problem with Planning especially if you are replacing an existing one...
You can call the Planners anonymously with a general enquiry and politely ask if there are any restriction to errecting a timber shed and run... to be safe just incase there are some miffed neighbours!
Al
By briony
Date 15.04.03 10:32 UTC
HI,
Sorry would have to disagree, ' planning' has visited our brick built kennel
and run and due to it's size,use and disstance from the house no planning is
required as it is not a dwelling or has commercial use it is also under 4 meters h
igh. Whether it's temporary or not has nothing to with it.Its the dimensions,
size and use you don't need planning for a porch or building regs.
Briony :-)
By Blue
Date 15.04.03 11:53 UTC

I think the rules are that if you have had not other extension to your property then up to
30 metres square ( 5.4 x 5.4 metres) is fine without planning. Iti s always worth asking.
Pam
Forgot to add if it is brink built you must have at least 100 Metres Square ( 10 x 10 metres ) left of garden ground. Which I would imagine anyone building a kennel probably has.
By briony
Date 15.04.03 13:27 UTC
You will find Pam it is 50% of square area of the garden that is to be left,which
is what I said in my previous post.
Briony :-)
By Blue
Date 15.04.03 13:58 UTC

It must be different where you are I guess..
Pam

Scottish law and English law are
very different in lots of ways. :)
By Blue
Date 15.04.03 11:58 UTC

Briony,
You are right you don't need planning for a porch but you do need a building warrant as it is joined to the house.
Best always to check with local authority. As they can have their own By-laws including building regulations.
Pam
By briony
Date 15.04.03 13:24 UTC
You don't need building regs for a porch or warrrant as we spoke to building
regs inspector when he was at our property on another matter.
Briony
By Blue
Date 15.04.03 13:46 UTC

Hi there,
Not sure what a building regulations inspector is in your neck of the wood but in mine there is Planning and Building 2 different operations and one cannot legally comment 100% for the other, but as I say that may be different where you are. I am in Scotland. If there is a solid tiled roof on residential property in Scotland a building warrant is required. Building warrants are a seperate thing from Planning.
I have built 3 houses in the last 3 years, just received planning permission for a new solid roof sun porch and car garage just last week spo although I am not saying I know it all as it is a miving target with Planning I am wuite up to date on some of it. Not that I have planning Perm. I have to apply seperately for a building warrant.
Not arguing with you but areas may be different so people must check with their local authorities.
One requirement I know of only just changed with Conservatories ,in Scotland you did not need planning for them just a building warrant, if it is bigger than 3 x 3 metres externally you need planning.
BFN Pam
By briony
Date 15.04.03 14:09 UTC
Hi Pam,
I used to live in Scotland,the rules for planning and building regs are different
for Scotland and England.
Probably where the confusion is lying.
Don't want to argue either ,i've had planning and building inspectors out to
m
y property a number of times on different matters they get a mug of tea when
they come now!
In England planning is one dept and building regs is another but it's always
sound policy to check both and to keep up with all the new rules and regs that
come out
Regards Briony :-)
P.s. what part of Scotland are you from?
Another reason to always check with the planning dept is that the standard rules do not apply if you live in a conservation area. Everything is much stricter then.
By Isabel
Date 15.04.03 22:37 UTC

or a National Park.
By Isabel
Date 15.04.03 22:38 UTC

or worse still both.
By Blue
Date 17.04.03 12:01 UTC

Hi Briony,
Sorry I missed your question, been very busy...
I am from the kingdom of Fife, about 30 mins from Edinburgh. I stay is a town called Glenrothes.
Pam
By briony
Date 17.04.03 14:33 UTC
Hi Pam,
Thats a lovely place, used to pass through many times :-)
I used to stay near Elgin.
Regards Briony :-)
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